[x5_Bard]

UHF has listed the correct parsing in his post, Rossi's is in the wrong time ^^

The only thing that SC2gears can conclude is that Chobo watched his ramp with his camera unmoving for ~20 seconds performing no actions. While this sounds suspicious it could be for any number of innocent reasons. Also I dont think his camera is locked at all, he just looks AFK lol

That being said I feel that there is enough evidence in the mafia games. Its blatantly obvious that something weird is going on.

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mGGAequitas:

take a sip of water = HACKER!!!

[RicocheT]

Originally Posted by Bard

The only thing that SC2gears can conclude is that Chobo watched his ramp with his camera unmoving for ~20 seconds performing no actions. While this sounds suspicious it could be for any number of innocent reasons. Also I dont think his camera is locked at all, he just looks AFK lol

Why would you go AFK in a masters cup game? You're playing for money! If I was playing in the masters cup, I would be spamming like a mofo (partly to look good in case they check EPM/APM, but also so my fingers are fully warmed up for epic micro battles to come). Plus in 20 seconds, you have a lot to do. Supply depots, moar marinez, moar rax, moar scvs, etc. You can't just simply afk 20 seconds in a masters cup game, especially against Peleus (props to Bard for the correction)

I personally haven't analysed the replays so I won't comment on the rest of it.

Edit: My bad Bard D=

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x5_Bard:

The game was not against mafia it was vs peleus.

[NvPinder]

Originally Posted by FaDeUndoNe

Why would you go AFK in a masters cup game? You're playing for money! If I was playing in the masters cup, I would be spamming like a mofo (partly to look good in case they check EPM/APM, but also so my fingers are fully warmed up for epic micro battles to come). Plus in 20 seconds, you have a lot to do. Supply depots, moar marinez, moar rax, moar scvs, etc. You can't just simply afk 20 seconds in a masters cup game, especially against Mafia.

I personally haven't analysed the replays so I won't comment on the rest of it.

To be honest I find the parts of replays where he 'screen locks' for 1-3 seconds much more sus than 20 seconds.

You'd never do nothing for 20 seconds unless you were afk, it doesnt take you 20 seconds of staring off camara to figure out what your opponent is doing, whens the last time you saw a terran player look at what he scanned for more than half a second? Players playing at this level have seen everything that can be seen in the game 1,000 times over, we don't sit there scratching our chins deducing what every building is then deciding our next plan of action while doing it.

I'd say 99% chance hes afk/answering the phone/accidentally alt tabbed or something here.

[Peleus]

Originally Posted by FaDeUndoNe

Why would you go AFK in a masters cup game? You're playing for money! If I was playing in the masters cup, I would be spamming like a mofo (partly to look good in case they check EPM/APM, but also so my fingers are fully warmed up for epic micro battles to come). Plus in 20 seconds, you have a lot to do. Supply depots, moar marinez, moar rax, moar scvs, etc. You can't just simply afk 20 seconds in a masters cup game, especially against Mafia.

I personally haven't analysed the replays so I won't comment on the rest of it.

To make it clear, this was not a MC game, it was 15 minutes beforehand in a ladder game.

I agree that the sc2gears thing is 'irrelevant' in the sense of matching actions as the time in the original is wrongly correlated to in game time, although I too was fooled to begin with so I'm not blaming anyone for the misunderstanding. On one side it points out the dangers (that I am also susceptible too) of being in a 'hack' mind frame and jumping to that conclusion whenever you see something amiss. On the flip side one mistake doesn't nullify the other questionable actions that have been made and need to be explained.

Considering that sc2gears simply parses the information from the replay file, and the replay you view is the sc2 engine reconstructing the game from the command lines in these files it would be extremely unusual / impossible for something to be in sc2gears that isn't in the replay also. (Once more, not pointing fingers or sounding like I know it all, I was wrong at the start too).

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RicocheT:

Aight, thanks for clarifying =]

[CHoBo(kice)]

My response to Quote 1:

The reason for the pausing / AFK

I had hay fever... I sneezed all over keyboard and shit.... it was for valid reason

For Quote 2

The ling, festor is a much popular style in Korea and in general opposed to the ling,bane muta.

Although I believed I knew mafia's style really well... I was actually scared that game when I was constantly scanning. In case he did something crazy

Edit: I do alt-tab frequently also because my gf msgs me on fb even thought she knows im playing :/

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x5_Bard:

lol you didnt actually ask a question, just made some weird statement

[NvPinder]

Originally Posted by AsGCHoBo

My response to Quote 1:

The reason for the pausing / AFK

I had hay fever... I sneezed all over keyboard and shit.... it was for valid reason

For Quote 2

The ling, festor is a much popular style in Korea and in general opposed to the ling,bane muta.

Although I believed I knew mafia's style really well... I was actually scared that game when I was constantly scanning. In case he did something crazy

Edit: I do alt-tab frequently also because my gf msgs me on fb even thought she knows im playing :/

Only if your girlfriend was AT LEAST a 9 would you bother to consistently alt tab that much through the majority of games you play in for a girl I'm assuming you've already had sex with. The only way for you to verify this would be half, if not full naked pictures of your girlfriend for us to discuss the legitimacy of her attractiveness and deem if she is worthy of this amount of alt tabbing.

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[DM.MCZ.Polaris]

Originally Posted by NvPinder

Only if your girlfriend was AT LEAST a 9 would you bother to consistently alt tab that much through the majority of games you play in for a girl I'm assuming you've already had sex with. The only way for you to verify this would be half, if not full naked pictures of your girlfriend for us to discuss the legitimacy of her attractiveness and deem if she is worthy of this amount of alt tabbing.

I don't see why there's a need for this just because Chobo is replying to his gf. Even eehanDgNa also alt tab to reply me if I were to Facebook him. This is called being a gentleman.
Showing naked pictures of his girlfriend is definitely a nonsensical solution.

Edit: sorry, I'm too gullible. And btw, I find this joke pretty rude.

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[CHoBo(kice)]

Watching replay myself. I drop marines at fourth second time after denying first time. I lost almost all these marines to lings....

this would be stupid if i could see there was lings there right?

or you gonna say I did it on purpose now or something lol