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Unread Sat, 5th-May-2012, 2:01 AM BnetId: 562  Race: Total Posts Made: 356 # 1
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http://drop.sc/171829
http://drop.sc/171828
http://drop.sc/171827
http://drop.sc/171826
http://drop.sc/171825
http://drop.sc/171824
http://drop.sc/171823
http://drop.sc/171822
http://drop.sc/171821

The most recent is the BOTTOM of this list. Dates / days ago is in drop.sc details.

From this you can also learn I suck at ZvP.
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Unread Sat, 5th-May-2012, 12:48 PM BnetId: FSVulcaN.713/MiPhoenix.139  Race: Clan: FS  Location: Adelaide, Australia  Total Posts Made: 143 # 2
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http://drop.sc/171829
http://drop.sc/171828
http://drop.sc/171827
http://drop.sc/171826
http://drop.sc/171825
http://drop.sc/171824
http://drop.sc/171823
http://drop.sc/171822
http://drop.sc/171821

The most recent is the BOTTOM of this list. Dates / days ago is in drop.sc details.

From this you can also learn I suck at ZvP.
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Unread Sat, 5th-May-2012, 10:23 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: EU.Nemo #368  Race: Location: Paris, France  Total Posts Made: 752 # 3
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http://drop.sc/171821
No Map Hack 100% :
  • scouting
  • taken by surprise by what you hide
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http://drop.sc/171822
No Map Hack spotted.

Quote:
http://drop.sc/171829
Same.

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http://drop.sc/171828
Passed

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http://drop.sc/171827
No Map Hack spotted.
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http://drop.sc/171826
Passed

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http://drop.sc/171825
No Map Hack spotted.

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http://drop.sc/171824
Passed

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http://drop.sc/171823
No Map Hack spotted.

In conclusion, he's probably not Map Hacking in PvZ at least. It would still be interesting to have some other recent PvP and PvT from him.

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Unread Sun, 6th-May-2012, 1:09 AM BnetId: faithHunter 598  Race: Clan: TN  Location: Indonesia  Total Posts Made: 260 # 4
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No Map Hack 100% :
  • scouting
  • taken by surprise by what you hide

No Map Hack spotted.


Same.


Passed


No Map Hack spotted.

Passed


No Map Hack spotted.


Passed


No Map Hack spotted.

In conclusion, he's probably not Map Hacking in PvZ at least. It would still be interesting to have some other recent PvP and PvT from him.
Why would anyone turn off their maphack program only if they're playing a PvZ? I feel as if during the earliest parts of the game where it is the most critical part of the game (since you're doing your build order and building up your foundation for later in the game), you can't afford to miss workers or building timings. And if you have maphack enabled during the start of the game, I cannot think of a reason to turn it off just because he's playing a PvZ. It's either he's actually maphacking but he's really sneaky and we just couldn't find suspicious actions on all of the 9 replays, or he's not using maphack at all.

Or maybe he could be using the maphack software that Nemo posted on SC2SEA, the one that has the forcefield timer and the production tab enabled, and he has the "maphack" feature disabled.

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Unread Sun, 6th-May-2012, 1:13 AM BnetId: 562  Race: Total Posts Made: 356 # 5
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I understand the 'process' of going though and checking PvT and PvP replays, but considering you've got a heap of replays with no evidence for it and only a semi sus replay to accuse him it's pretty safe to call him clear unless someone comes in and accuses him again with evidence.

I can't see any reason people would turn on / off hacks for suspicious match ups.

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Unread Sun, 6th-May-2012, 1:49 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: EU.Nemo #368  Race: Location: Paris, France  Total Posts Made: 752 # 6
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I understand the 'process' of going though and checking PvT and PvP replays, but considering you've got a heap of replays with no evidence for it and only a semi sus replay to accuse him it's pretty safe to call him clear unless someone comes in and accuses him again with evidence.

I can't see any reason people would turn on / off hacks for suspicious match ups.
Hum, that was more than a semi-suspect replay.

But I try to stay on facts. Your replays shows that on PvZ against you he doesn't hack. I can safely expand that to all PvZ and that's already a big step toward saying that it was just "luck".

I don't feel as safe to expand the conclusion to PvP since PvP is often disliked by players and more likely to contain hidden tactics.

He still stays innocent still proven guilty, but personally for me to be really confident he doesn't MH I would prefer having some other PvP (or PvT).

So if we can have other replays, all good, if not, too bad it will stay like that.

We had several experiences in this Hacker tracking process( Ghost, Evets for instance) where we have seen hackers toggling on and off MH. They want to improve too and they know they don't with MH on. It's often a confident boost or a way to play without stressing for what opponent could do.

And I'm 100% sure he wasn't MAP hacking against Peleus. he was genuinely surprised each time he had to be surprised.
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