[dKiWi]

i think she did fine past the first two games, altho i kind of miss artosis....

[SkyBreaker]

Originally Posted by Starcraftmazter

Not to be critical in this particular reply, however I am rather lost at comments such as "give her a chance". People say that as though she hasn't been casting for a long time already...

When people are saying "give her a chance", I'm quite sure they are referring to casting the GSL.

I mean, a lot of people wrote her off after a few sample VoDs that were posted on TL; but after tonight, it's clear that she's improved her casting abilities tremendously. So by "giving her a chance"; it's clear to see she's actually a great caster, is improving and will continue to do so. And most importantly following her passions in life; regardless of negative criticism based on people's assumptions.

[NEWater]

Nothing personal but I think that was a bad decision on GOMTV's part. Americans and Europeans have zero problem comprehending me on Vent/Skype and it isn't hard at all as long as I took additional care for proper pronunciation.

The accent can be fixed and honestly it's rather inconsequential, but I find Kelly's professionalism and game knowledge + game sense very much lacking. I've seen Aussie commentators give negative feedback on how she didn't bother to inform him that she couldn't make it before disappearing on him, and I remember last year's Gaming Festival event where she disappeared on the first night, leaving a very exhausted Philibert and another totally fresh guy to cover for her.

If GOMTV really wanted someone from Singapore, they should've asked Philibert instead. That guy has been shoutcasting with Gamestah for years and he's one of the most professional casters I know of in Singapore.

[Starcraftmazter]

Originally Posted by SkyBreaker

When people are saying "give her a chance", I'm quite sure they are referring to casting the GSL.

But how or why should it be different to casting anything else? It's like someone might be an ok player in Australia (I said ok, so not moonglade), then they go to Korea and someone is saying, "give them a chance", well ok but...if they were never the best to begin with, why exactly would they suddenly get a lot better coming up against better opponents under more pressure?

Originally Posted by SkyBreaker

I mean, a lot of people wrote her off after a few sample VoDs that were posted on TL; but after tonight, it's clear that she's improved her casting abilities tremendously. So by "giving her a chance"; it's clear to see she's actually a great caster, is improving and will continue to do so. And most importantly following her passions in life; regardless of negative criticism based on people's assumptions.

I think it depends on existing bias. The people that supported her will continue to support her. The people that criticized the decision will continue to do so as well.

Personally I heard a ton of mispronunciations of unit names, several parts where I just couldn't understand what she was saying, she interrupted tasteless several times, and half the time she was asking tasteless what he thought about something or why a player is doing something.
A caster is actually supposed to contribute information, not ask the other caster questions...

But hey - that's just what I saw. Like I said, I doubt many people will change their minds.


On the other hand, I would like to say that it is a delight to hear tasteless come out with more commentary and analysis. And I wish he got his chance to get trolled by the gomtv forums
But that's a bit off topic.

[dKiWi]

I found her game knowledge to be adequate. Too adequate in fact. Sometimes i think she should be an engineer rather than a caster.

But she did manage to mix in some humour there instead of constantly droning on about strategy, so ok plus for me. She should really stop calling players by the race they play and use their names tho

[NEWater]

What, "beep beep I'm not a hellion I'm a go-kart", and "this isn't a map but a street"? How redundant can that get? This is SC2 at its highest level, not The Daily Show on Comedy Central. It would've been fine if it was part of the Day9 Funday Monday but that comedy doesn't belong to GSL.

[Usul]

Originally Posted by NEWater

Nothing personal but I think that was a bad decision on GOMTV's part. Americans and Europeans have zero problem comprehending me on Vent/Skype and it isn't hard at all as long as I took additional care for proper pronunciation.

The accent can be fixed and honestly it's rather inconsequential, but I find Kelly's professionalism and game knowledge + game sense very much lacking. I've seen Aussie commentators give negative feedback on how she didn't bother to inform him that she couldn't make it before disappearing on him, and I remember last year's Gaming Festival event where she disappeared on the first night, leaving a very exhausted Philibert and another totally fresh guy to cover for her.

If GOMTV really wanted someone from Singapore, they should've asked Philibert instead. That guy has been shoutcasting with Gamestah for years and he's one of the most professional casters I know of in Singapore.

It seems you haven't watched GSL tonight, she did freaking good. Cause even for people who are regularly watching her stream, she already made a freaking improvement. Never mind it being her first day with all the stress from relocating to a another country within a week, having to deal with the thousands of hate posts, maybe quitting her job in singapore... That's one hell of a first day, and she already proved so many people wrong! Even if you don't like her as a caster, Kelly is part of our community, the least we can do is to be behind her.

Also, 1st post for you...

[NEWater]

Originally Posted by Usul

It seems you haven't watched GSL tonight, she did freaking good. Cause even for people who are regularly watching her stream, she already made a freaking improvement. Never mind it being her first day with all the stress from relocating to a another country within a week, having to deal with the thousands of hate posts, maybe quitting her job in singapore... That's one hell of a first day, and she already proved so many people wrong! Even if you don't like her as a caster, Kelly is part of our community, the least we can do is to be behind her.

Also, 1st post for you...

Yeah. I've been a longtime lurker. :\ And hooray for Usul the Pillar from Dune. :P

Honestly I didn't have much reason to post here until the Ris Low of Starcraft fiasco is underway. I simply cannot facepalm enough. And yes, I did watch the stream but still, maybe it's just me whose standards are too high and I'm just being an anal-retentive guy who demands a lot out of things and people (including myself) but I just wasn't satisfied at all. I still think that we could've sent someone much better than Kelly.

[Usul]

Originally Posted by NEWater

Yeah. I've been a longtime lurker. :\ And hooray for Usul the Pillar from Dune. :P

Honestly I didn't have much reason to post here until the Ris Low of Starcraft fiasco is underway. I simply cannot facepalm enough. And yes, I did watch the stream but still, maybe it's just me whose standards are too high and I'm just being an anal-retentive guy who demands a lot out of things and people (including myself) but I just wasn't satisfied at all. I still think that we could've sent someone much better than Kelly.

Thanks for getting the Dune reference!

As for the rest... Well, you might facepalm too much and should go to the toilet more often. That being being said, Kelly is already getting better and striving to do even better. But it seems it's not enough for you, so please do tell us what you dislike about her casting.

[NEWater]

<== is a total Dune nerd and has read all the books.

But I digress. I think I already pointed out that she lacks professionalism, game knowledge and game sense. Her redundant rambling was an attempt to cover for her lack of knowledge and I think that has got to stop. I don't know if I'm making an erroneous analogy here but I can't help but to see parallels between the redundancies in Kelly's casting and the amount of evangelizing praise our politicians have been heaping upon our ridiculous Budget 2011.

It became painfully clear to be that she was trying to compensate for her lack of analysis of what was going on in the game, and so was it clear to me that our budget was a crock of horse manure which our politicians tried to neutralize the stink with their most puissant of praises.

[dKiWi]

Posted by DarthNoko in my thread on bnet forums.

During game 2:

Tasteless: Artosis would always say if you get ahead, get more ahead!

...moments later

Tasteless: If you get ahead...
Kelly: you get more head! (thats how i heard it anyway)

LOL

but yeah she was a little jittery at first but she did well.

[kellyMILKIES]

Originally Posted by NEWater

<== is a total Dune nerd and has read all the books.

But I digress. I think I already pointed out that she lacks professionalism, game knowledge and game sense. Her redundant rambling was an attempt to cover for her lack of knowledge and I think that has got to stop. I don't know if I'm making an erroneous analogy here but I can't help but to see parallels between the redundancies in Kelly's casting and the amount of evangelizing praise our politicians have been heaping upon our ridiculous Budget 2011.

It became painfully clear to be that she was trying to compensate for her lack of analysis of what was going on in the game, and so was it clear to me that our budget was a crock of horse manure which our politicians tried to neutralize the stink with their most puissant of praises.

Dude you don't make sense. Stop talking.

[nirvAnA]

Hi kelly!

New kelly interview

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[NEWater]

Originally Posted by kellyMILKIES

Dude you don't make sense. Stop talking.

Then of course, I must apologize if you don't like criticism. It's difficult to resist the level of lovebombing around here but alas, the ostrich really is enviable, sometimes.

[HDPhoenix]

A new shirt you should wear Kelly

[kellyMILKIES]

Originally Posted by NEWater

Then of course, I must apologize if you don't like criticism. It's difficult to resist the level of lovebombing around here but alas, the ostrich really is enviable, sometimes.

You are not even giving criticism. You just sound like you got beat by 6 pool 5 times in a row. Totally bitter, but I guess it's ok. You are new to the forum and you are wasting all your posts here. I get your point. Now go enjoy the other parts of the forum. Take care!

[Usul]

I still think an "I TARK ENGRISH" would be best

[inFeZa]

This thread reminds me of primary school, everyone is just blaming everyone, and some people are in 'la-la-land'

[FlashDrakE]

Today's casting was fine considering it was day one, but there's still a lot of room for improvement. At least you can see that she's put in effort to improve her casting abilities. Some things just can't be changed after a day (e.g. pronunciation of certain words) so it's all okay.

[dKiWi]

MUCH better than i expected seriously, thank goodness. Its very good that SEA/SG now has a significantly larger slice of the e-sports contribution pie. If Kelly can keep this up i believe they wont need to recruit more Code A casters ^^