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Unread Mon, 21st-Feb-2011, 9:40 PM BnetId: NEWater 870  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 7 # 1
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Nothing personal but I think that was a bad decision on GOMTV's part. Americans and Europeans have zero problem comprehending me on Vent/Skype and it isn't hard at all as long as I took additional care for proper pronunciation.

The accent can be fixed and honestly it's rather inconsequential, but I find Kelly's professionalism and game knowledge + game sense very much lacking. I've seen Aussie commentators give negative feedback on how she didn't bother to inform him that she couldn't make it before disappearing on him, and I remember last year's Gaming Festival event where she disappeared on the first night, leaving a very exhausted Philibert and another totally fresh guy to cover for her.

If GOMTV really wanted someone from Singapore, they should've asked Philibert instead. That guy has been shoutcasting with Gamestah for years and he's one of the most professional casters I know of in Singapore.
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Unread Mon, 21st-Feb-2011, 10:02 PM BnetId: Usul.775  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 76 # 2
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Nothing personal but I think that was a bad decision on GOMTV's part. Americans and Europeans have zero problem comprehending me on Vent/Skype and it isn't hard at all as long as I took additional care for proper pronunciation.

The accent can be fixed and honestly it's rather inconsequential, but I find Kelly's professionalism and game knowledge + game sense very much lacking. I've seen Aussie commentators give negative feedback on how she didn't bother to inform him that she couldn't make it before disappearing on him, and I remember last year's Gaming Festival event where she disappeared on the first night, leaving a very exhausted Philibert and another totally fresh guy to cover for her.

If GOMTV really wanted someone from Singapore, they should've asked Philibert instead. That guy has been shoutcasting with Gamestah for years and he's one of the most professional casters I know of in Singapore.
It seems you haven't watched GSL tonight, she did freaking good. Cause even for people who are regularly watching her stream, she already made a freaking improvement. Never mind it being her first day with all the stress from relocating to a another country within a week, having to deal with the thousands of hate posts, maybe quitting her job in singapore... That's one hell of a first day, and she already proved so many people wrong! Even if you don't like her as a caster, Kelly is part of our community, the least we can do is to be behind her.

Also, 1st post for you...
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Unread Mon, 21st-Feb-2011, 10:05 PM BnetId: NEWater 870  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 7 # 3
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It seems you haven't watched GSL tonight, she did freaking good. Cause even for people who are regularly watching her stream, she already made a freaking improvement. Never mind it being her first day with all the stress from relocating to a another country within a week, having to deal with the thousands of hate posts, maybe quitting her job in singapore... That's one hell of a first day, and she already proved so many people wrong! Even if you don't like her as a caster, Kelly is part of our community, the least we can do is to be behind her.

Also, 1st post for you...
Yeah. I've been a longtime lurker. :\ And hooray for Usul the Pillar from Dune. :P

Honestly I didn't have much reason to post here until the Ris Low of Starcraft fiasco is underway. I simply cannot facepalm enough. And yes, I did watch the stream but still, maybe it's just me whose standards are too high and I'm just being an anal-retentive guy who demands a lot out of things and people (including myself) but I just wasn't satisfied at all. I still think that we could've sent someone much better than Kelly.
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Unread Mon, 21st-Feb-2011, 10:24 PM BnetId: Usul.775  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 76 # 4
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Yeah. I've been a longtime lurker. :\ And hooray for Usul the Pillar from Dune. :P

Honestly I didn't have much reason to post here until the Ris Low of Starcraft fiasco is underway. I simply cannot facepalm enough. And yes, I did watch the stream but still, maybe it's just me whose standards are too high and I'm just being an anal-retentive guy who demands a lot out of things and people (including myself) but I just wasn't satisfied at all. I still think that we could've sent someone much better than Kelly.
Thanks for getting the Dune reference!

As for the rest... Well, you might facepalm too much and should go to the toilet more often. That being being said, Kelly is already getting better and striving to do even better. But it seems it's not enough for you, so please do tell us what you dislike about her casting.
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Unread Tue, 22nd-Feb-2011, 10:02 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: Yoz.190  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 26 # 5
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It seems you haven't watched GSL tonight, she did freaking good
Were you watching the Korean or English stream? I'll admit she did ALRIGHT but there is no way I am going to say she did well. If you think she did 'freaking good' last night then I think I'm going to become a professional shoutcaster.

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Kelly did better than people expected her to :> Saying stuff like racecars is something people dislike, but that's her casting style. If people hate it, we just gotta let that fly. Sometimes I don't like Tasteless nasally voice but that's me.

Anyway, as for the rest, such as jokes/memes and stuff, as long as it's not offensive, it's fine. We spawned graken, grackets, gorillas and stuff. If people makes fun of the things she pronounce, it's funny -- laugh at it, but don't attack her with it. Even Tasteless said cweep. :>

I laugh about it a lot too, but come on guys... raging puts +10 years on your face, don't do it over StarCraft.
JacziE has it more like it is... She did better than expected but I don't think it's anywhere near the level of shoutcasting that people expect from GomTV events. If she is at this level at the end of Code A (and looking at the way she takes criticism, on forums as well as the fact she raged and blocked SEVERAL people on her MSN) makes me question whether she is going to be able to improve quickly enough.

JacziE as a caster from the Warcraft III days, I remember that you were criticised pretty harshly for your voice at first but people kinda got used to it. However, the main difference for mine is that when you were criticised you actually sat down and made an effort to resolve it, instead of just saying 'deal with it'.

An example was the 'burrow' thing we spoke about recently, where I remember you on stream acknowledging it, going through a list of attempted pronounciations, getting it right once, and never again. Except when you do this, at least we know you are aware of the criticism and made an attempt to fix it but failed. At least the community feels as though you have listened, thought it through and when you say burrow it becomes a ziEism rather than retardism.

Kelly's attitude towards critism right now seems so poor. Instead of acknowledging community concerns she does not post on the TeamLiquid forum (which may be a GomTV directive) and comes onto the SC2Sea forum to tell someone that they don't make sense (cue irony). Perhaps as a woman in the eSports scene you could mentor the girl and teach her how to conduct herself a little more professionally? It's already being questioned (and my post on TL didn't help but it was entirely honest) but will probably do a lot to affect her likeability.

People are more forgiving if they think you're listening and trying to improve. Kelly, fyi even if you are trying to improve behind the scenes, you still look like an absolute tool out here imo.
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Unread Tue, 22nd-Feb-2011, 12:01 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: FlashRevz.721  Race: Clan: Flash  Location: Emoland, Singapore  Total Posts Made: 515 # 6
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Nothing personal but I think that was a bad decision on GOMTV's part. Americans and Europeans have zero problem comprehending me on Vent/Skype and it isn't hard at all as long as I took additional care for proper pronunciation.

The accent can be fixed and honestly it's rather inconsequential, but I find Kelly's professionalism and game knowledge + game sense very much lacking. I've seen Aussie commentators give negative feedback on how she didn't bother to inform him that she couldn't make it before disappearing on him, and I remember last year's Gaming Festival event where she disappeared on the first night, leaving a very exhausted Philibert and another totally fresh guy to cover for her.

If GOMTV really wanted someone from Singapore, they should've asked Philibert instead. That guy has been shoutcasting with Gamestah for years and he's one of the most professional casters I know of in Singapore.
I agreed that Philibert is an excellent caster. However, just so you know, the only Starcraft2 event Philibert has ever casted(that I know) was Epic Gaming Convention 2010, whilst Kelly had so much more SC2 casting experience. That being said, Philibert would be inappropriate to be that SC2 caster that GOMTV was be looking for. Frankly, it does seem like you're posting with limited knowledge of what's going on in the Starcraft2 scene of SEA

As for the first two paragraphs, I won't comment much on it as it seemed like it's critisizm based on partially your personal beliefs.

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