Pig: I'm not trying to stir crap at Arnor or Revenant - Don't know where you are reading this from. I'm trying to create a discussion and have a say for Iaguz. Please don't misjudge my intention.
Fair argument, I easily understood there was a multitude of perspective towards this scenario, hence the thread and the poll. I'm not calling anybody out, I'm asking for community discussion/opinion.
Obviously the biggest gain from the existence of this thread is awareness of such an issue, which supports your suggestion that prevention is better than either crappy decisions. That doesn't suggest what happened need not to be carefully analysed. It would suck to be in Iaguz's shoes, I'm sure you understand that.
Last edited by nGenLight; Fri, 13th-Apr-2012 at 12:15 AM.
Pig: I'm not trying to stir crap at Arnor or Revenant - Don't know where you are reading this from. I'm trying to create a discussion and have a say for Iaguz. Please don't misjudge my intention.
Fair argument, I easily understood there was a multitude of perspective towards this scenario, hence the thread and the poll. I'm not calling anybody out, I'm asking for community discussion/opinion.
Obviously the biggest gain from the existence of this thread is awareness of such an issue, which supports your statement in saying prevention is better than either crappy decisions. That doesn't suggest what happened needs to be carefully analysed. It would suck to be in Iaguz's shoes, I'm sure you understand that.
Agree, original post edited.
Super tough situation.
@peleus, yeah that wording makes it clearer to me why the majority seem to be agreeing that a rematch is in order. However do we blindly follow rules or do we look to do what is most right and fair? Putting myself in the shoes of either of these players I would be mad. If I lose a deciding match with a prize I would be pissed. But if I were to win and then have it taken away and have to regame I think I would possibly be even more furious.
"Following from the simple logic of "Must be within the tournament rules for it to be a valid game -> Outside the rules therefore game invalid" I think the match should be replayed."
This situation has happened to me in the past where I've lost on invalid maps and I've just taken it and left. But maybe a regame was valid? I dunno I just always felt it was wrong to ask for a regame.
Summary: I still feel a regame is more wrong, but I'm no longer so dogmatic in my view.
However do we blindly follow rules or do we look to do what is most right and fair?
Honestly, blindly follow rules. The rules are there to create a subjective framework for people to follow. When 50% will agree with a decision while 50% will disagree (aka this situation) the only thing you have to fall back on is the rules in place for the tournament. Now if you truly think the ruling is incorrect you can certainly change the rules for future tournaments, but making subjective decisions (which sometimes may even contradict existing rules) is a sure way to invite a shitstorm.
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