[TAScarecrow]

Originally Posted by nirvAnA

Anyone from a neutral perspective will be able to see that.

If you truly think there isn't a conflict of interest in you deciding on deth's ban length I really don't know what to say (i'll admit I have bias, I wish you would too). Coupled with the fact you think you've been lenient in your bans makes it impossible to reach a compromise as you feel you don't have to budge an inch. Banning a pro player from a tournament over mildly offensive forum posts is overzealous modding imo. You act like you get the final say on who gets to play in the SEA scene. Yes you own a community website, and you put alot of work into the scene but if you put this up before the community (where most of the money and hours come from) instead of having it in this hidden thread I'm sure most will support his return. Comparing deth to zanooku is hardly fair as a justification for ban lengths. Zanooku was a racist, abusive troll that almost everyone in the community loathed. Deth on the other hand just insulted you. It's not a popularity contest, it's just surely an impartial judge can see the difference between deth and ziek and ban accordingly. Again if you'd accepted deth's apology (sincere or otherwise) we wouldn't be in this situation. If you want to be always pulling the mature/lenient/moral high ground card then actually back it up.

Banning deth doesn't save us from being the CS scene. Our community does that on its own. I don't get why you're so determined to punish him? You won't 'reform' him, I'm sure SC2SEA will survive his presence and he'll still hate you just as much after returning.

edit: less aggressive

[iM tgun]

Originally Posted by TAScarecrow

If you truly think your perspective is neutral in this you're a lost cause. That you think you've been lenient in your bans just makes it worse. Banning a pro player from a tournament over mildly offensive forum posts is just way over the top and terrible modding. You act like you own the SEA scene when all you do is own a website (your actual jurisdiction). Again if you'd accepted the apology (sincere or otherwise) we wouldn't be in this situation. If you want to be always pulling the mature/lenient/moral high ground then actually do it.

Banning deth doesn't save us from being the CS scene. Our community does that on its own, with or without your divine presence. I don't get why you're so determined to punish him. You won't 'reform' him, I'm sure SC2SEA will survive his presence and he'll still hate you just as much after returning.

I think your post is a bit to.. aggressive? I'm not sure how to phrase it. Without Nirvana, the sea scene honestly wouldn't be what it is today. This site is a large part of the scene, as I'm sure you know that almost all of the tournaments that run will be either echo'd on this site, or ran directly from here. I do agree that he definitely isn't neutral in this situation, however.

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