SC2SEA.com - Starcraft 2 SEA eSports Community Site


  • Home
  • About
  • Streams
  • Features
  • Tournaments
  • Forums
SC2SEA.com - Starcraft 2 SEA eSports Community Site > General Forums > General > [Site] Fate of our rep system
Community
House Clans
Clans
No recent threads.
Community
No recent threads.
Tournaments
No recent threads.
Latest Blogs New
tier list of people...
asdfSchnitzel
My Life Was Turned...
Sc2Clare
I've been playing...
SLCN.Wally
My Starcraft/eSpor...
syfChadMann
My Starcraft/eSpor...
syfChadMann
General
Stickied Threads
No recent threads.
General Threads
No recent threads.
StarCraft II
Starcraft General
No recent threads.
Strategy Discussion
No recent threads.
BSG Discussion
No recent threads.
Other Games
Other Games
No recent threads.
Sports
No recent threads.
News
News Archive
No recent threads.
Tournament News
No recent threads.
Articles Archive
Replays
Photo Gallery
Mark all forums as read
View Poll Results: Should negative rep be removed from the system?
Yes, it harms the community even though its unintentional. 34 25.95%
No, it was fine the way it is. Offenders can be banned so others can keep using it. 83 63.36%
Other - Not exactly a yes / no and I have an alternative suggestion i will post about 14 10.69%
Voters: 131. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
Display Modes
Thread Tools
Unread Mon, 2nd-Apr-2012, 8:47 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: NvPinder.933  Race: Clan: TA (Nv)  Location: Melbourne  Total Posts Made: 885 # 1
NvPinder
NvPinder's Avatar
Tourneys Joined / Won: 5/1
SC2SEA Race War ChampionsCruel EntertainerThe People's Champion
Achievements (3)
Quote:
Originally Posted by wTFlamga View Post
I suppose negative rep gives us a way to say we disagree without having this real strong opinion or explanation why, or sometimes when a heated debate is going on and we disagree but not directly involved.
But this is the biggest problem, which is something Maynarde brought up early in the thread which is completely inevitable, people take offense to these small "your post sucks", which people take offense for, and rightly so if they don't give a decent reason or explanation. If i post a big 5 paragraph post and people have the option of "your posts sucks" as a response, it pisses me off, you should give a reason, this is a discussion board, this isn't ******* reddit.

Quote:
But people do abuse it and they should have the ability taken away from them. Its the problem of a few ruining it for many
This is another big issue which was kind of my point singling out nirvAnA as an example in my previous post. What the **** is "abuse of the rep system" exactly, everyone has a ******* different opinion, I've seen people claim its any of:
-Using the rep system if you disagree with a posts content (ie: this guys opinion is retarded - downrep "no you're wrong")
-Using the rep system as a way of getting back at a person for downrepping you, even tho you had nothing against the post when you first read it.
-Too many of one particular group of people using the downrep system on one post (EG: the infamous "TA rep train"), even though they all might agree with the post being wrong.
-Downrepping simply because you don't like the person and it has nothing to do with their post
-Downrepping because there gramma/formatting/not enough detail in their post, despite having no argument with the post's point itself.
-Downrepping too harshly (EG: someone posts something you want to downrep for any above reasons, and you simply downrep with "You're a dickhead" or something).
-Downrepping because of a persons attitude in the post (EG: comes off arrogant/assholish, despite you not disagreeing with any facts/opinions in the post)
-Downrepping too liberally (IE: downrepping too much, even if you only slightly disagree with any of the posts content)

And probably many more I can't think of off the top of my head. People have been banned. FROM TOURNAMENTS. For doing things many would consider not even remote abuse of the system, whilst others slide completely because of everyones differing opinions on exactly what compensates a good enough reason to downvote a post.

I just can't for the life of me understand why anyone would want this system on the website. It is literally the starter of the biggest shitstorms on this entire website.

Quick Comments
 nirvAnA:  
 deL:  
You're a dickhead
 TCPLemminks:  
Your chin looks like balls dickhead
 ProAnnn:  
I was wondering why noone downreps this but realise you can't downrep
___________________________________
@NvPinder on twitter | http://sea-play.com/invidia/ | http://www.clan-ta.com | http://www.youtube.com/user/ftrunkz | http://www.twitchtv.com/xghpinder

Last edited by NvPinder; Mon, 2nd-Apr-2012 at 8:49 PM.
NvPinder is offline   OLD POST Reply With Quote
NvPinder
View Public Profile
Send a private message to NvPinder
Find all posts by NvPinder
Unread Mon, 2nd-Apr-2012, 9:02 PM Who's Who:   BattleTag: Flamga#6389  Race: Location: Adelaide, Australia  Total Posts Made: 900 # 2
Flamga
Flamga's Avatar
Tourneys Joined: 1
Most Promising New Caster (2011)
Community BuilderThere is no fate but what we make for ourselves
Achievements (2)
Quote:
Originally Posted by NvPinder View Post
But this is the biggest problem, which is something Maynarde brought up early in the thread which is completely inevitable, people take offense to these small "your post sucks", which people take offense for, and rightly so if they don't give a decent reason or explanation. If i post a big 5 paragraph post and people have the option of "your posts sucks" as a response, it pisses me off, you should give a reason, this is a discussion board, this isn't ******* reddit.



This is another big issue which was kind of my point singling out nirvAnA as an example in my previous post. What the **** is "abuse of the rep system" exactly, everyone has a ******* different opinion, I've seen people claim its any of:
-Using the rep system if you disagree with a posts content (ie: this guys opinion is retarded - downrep "no you're wrong")
-Using the rep system as a way of getting back at a person for downrepping you, even tho you had nothing against the post when you first read it.
-Too many of one particular group of people using the downrep system on one post (EG: the infamous "TA rep train"), even though they all might agree with the post being wrong.
-Downrepping simply because you don't like the person and it has nothing to do with their post
-Downrepping because there gramma/formatting/not enough detail in their post, despite having no argument with the post's point itself.
-Downrepping too harshly (EG: someone posts something you want to downrep for any above reasons, and you simply downrep with "You're a dickhead" or something).
-Downrepping because of a persons attitude in the post (EG: comes off arrogant/assholish, despite you not disagreeing with any facts/opinions in the post)
-Downrepping too liberally (IE: downrepping too much, even if you only slightly disagree with any of the posts content)

And probably many more I can't think of off the top of my head. People have been banned. FROM TOURNAMENTS. For doing things many would consider not even remote abuse of the system, whilst others slide completely because of everyones differing opinions on exactly what compensates a good enough reason to downvote a post.

I just can't for the life of me understand why anyone would want this system on the website. It is literally the starter of the biggest shitstorms on this entire website.
In which case the only way something of a rep system would work is if any commenting value was taken from the rep and only gave + or - , and then comments were below. Honestly either way I am not bothered, rep system or not I couldn't care less if I get neg rep as you said its opinion based and people will just neg for no reason.

However I still maintain that there are people that just rep for the sake of it instead of a good reason (I will say I have + rep sometimes, and yes most likely I was drunk or bored) Unfortunately since there are so many differences of opinion in the system there wont be conformity in what deserves +/- rep. In which case the system should just not exist.

Of course we still need to have a good idea of who the trolls are as well. Which the only way would be to see who has been banned and given infractions, of course within reason.
Flamga is offline Send a message via Skype™ to Flamga   OLD POST Reply With Quote
Flamga
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Flamga
Find all posts by Flamga

Reply

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Linear Mode
Hybrid Mode Hybrid Mode
Threaded Mode Switch to Threaded Mode


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
System's VOD Thread iMSystem Starcraft 2 General Discussion 45 Sat, 25th-Aug-2012 11:03 PM
PM system not working Dulcimer Site Stuff 0 Wed, 23rd-Nov-2011 4:56 AM
The new SC2SEA ban system nirvAnA General 45 Thu, 15th-Sep-2011 10:13 PM
GSL August Code S Finals: Fate Cute Latest News 8 Thu, 8th-Sep-2011 6:18 PM
System's Funday #3 iMSystem Latest Tournament News 0 Tue, 7th-Jun-2011 2:46 PM

Events
Upcoming Events Add
No events scheduled in
the next 7 days.
OSC SEA Participation Bonus
Live Streams
No streams online.
Open SEABets
No open bets.
2015 OSEANIC Series
Latest Results
Americas Open #110 KeeN
OSC SEA Weekly #24 Probe
SC2Online Comm Open #38 aLive
February EU Ladder Heroes Nerchio
February NA Ladder Heroes TRUE
ANZ Cup #12 iaguz
Filthy NA Weekly #16 Semper
Proxy Tempest Open #43 PiLiPiLi
Top 20 OSC Rankings
1ByuN
2Seither
3DemiLove
4PiLiPiLi
5Kelazhur
6Cham
7iaguz
8aLive
9Solar
10KeeN
11EnDerr
12KingkOng
13TRUE
14GuMiho
15Probe
16puCK
17Snute
18PandaBearMe
19PiG
20Ryung
Full Point Standings
Earn extra points with Challenge Matches!
Bounties
Defeat these players and collect the $'s!
ByuN$100
INnoVation$75
Solar$75
Neeb$60
herO$50
GuMiho$50
Nerchio$50
TRUE$50
uThermal$50
Kelazhur$40
MajOr$40
Scarlett$40
Snute$40
aLive$30
Bly$30
iAsonu$30
KeeN$30
PiLiPiLi$30
puCK$30
Ryung$30
Cham$25
Cyan$25
iaguz$25
Guru$25
Seither$25
Semper$25
JonSnow$15
PandaBearMe$15
Probe$15
Latest Collected
Yours 2-0 Neeb $60
SC2ONLINE Comm Open #38
Azure 2-0 Seither $25
ANZ Cup #12
Cham 2-0 Cyan $25
OSC All Stars #24
FuturE 2-0 KeeN $30
ESL Americas Open #109
Donations
Donate using Paypal!

Even the smallest donations help keep sc2sea running! All donations go towards helping our site run including our monthly server hosting fees and sc2sea sponsored community tournaments we host. Find out more here.
Home - Contact Us - FAQ - Members List - Advertise - Terms of Service - Top - Mobile-friendly (alpha)
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
The contents of this webpage are copyright of sc2sea.com © 2010-2015. All Rights Reserved.
The Grandmaster Manual is a Starcraft 2 Guide created and owned by sc2sea.com
Starcraft2 is a trademark of Blizzard Entertainment, this is a community fan site and no infringement is intended.
Custom artwork by Zeus, Banner designed by Cute, other artworks is used with permission with credits listed here. vBulletin skin by CompletevB.com