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VB_Blake · Fri, 30th-Mar-2012, 3:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChickDealer

No pressure on me to get HoH's first win of the season :P

pressure all round haha, I shall see you tonight

Pretty fun and exciting way to end off the season though!

x5_Potter · Fri, 30th-Mar-2012, 7:57 PM

VB Sober Soldiers 3 v 3 Team HoH
VBPotthead 2 <<Match 1>> 0 HoHKelroz

VBMazspeed 2 <<Match 2>> 1 HoHGunter

VBDead 1 <<Match 3>> 2 Crownless (aka CLSmooth)
VBBandit 2 <<Match 4>> 0 HGYsecurity

insane 1 <<Ace Match>> 2 Venom

Bandit takes down Security 2-0 to end the match in a 3-3 draw. gg's all around.

krycek · Thu, 29th-Mar-2012, 8:41 PM

TCP 4-1 Penguins ( mtach 2 still to be played )

unthunder 2 <<Match 1>> Madoryung ( wildcard)

0 TCPkrycek

telfiri <<Match 2>>

Galabo

manipulator 0 <<Match 3>> 2

TCPkiasu

invaderzim 0 <<Match 4>> 2

TCPfenix

MrCrow 1 <<Ace Match>> 2

CCBBQchipsy

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	Frogmite:	YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES
	ZC.EvilSWAT:	You guys REALLY didn't want to be last place eh?
	Heady:	what? this is clearly the darkest timeline
	TCPKiaSu:	hell yeah bro
	ToRPandarine:	rigged! :P
	TCPLemminks:	FANGIRL SQUEL!
	Zealo:	cheers for reporting that
	TCPOrb:	WINNNNN!!!!

**ToR.Arnor** · Thu, 29th-Mar-2012, 8:41 PM

ZeroCraft v TA Edarus and Friends

SmokyMcPot <<Match 1>>

TAEaeron

(Reschedule unknown, admin informed both ZC Captain and player after 9pm that player needed schedule)
Rythos 2 <<Match 2>> 0

TAhackdZ (aka TARidiculisk)

Volition 0 <<Match 3>> 2 TAminimat

Spazznx (being rescheduled friday afternoon 4-6 hong kong time/ 7-9 AEDT time) <<Match 4>>

TAEdarus

Betasoo 2 <<Ace Match>> 0

Marinefifty

Zerocraft Currently in the lead 3-1

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krycek:

DBZ never lies

**syfChadMann** · Thu, 29th-Mar-2012, 8:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnor@CityHunter

(Reschedule unknown, admin informed both ZC Captain and player after 9pm that player needed schedule)

both players were aware of the reschedule before 9pm.

Additionally BeTasoO is being looked into by admins for smurfing, the player was Diamond before dropping to plat... Any player in this league that has played a game vs BeTasoO - please PM me re: replays you may have.
Thanks.

x5_Potter · Thu, 29th-Mar-2012, 9:07 PM

Beta goes whole season without being called out, beats TA, gets called out

Joking btw

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ToR.Arnor:

hit the nail on the head yo

TAminimat · Thu, 29th-Mar-2012, 9:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VB_Potthead

Beta goes whole season without being called out, beats TA, gets called out

Joking btw

We need some sort of drama.. it's the last week of SEACL yo. Also **** you.

betasoo · Thu, 29th-Mar-2012, 9:34 PM

Hi I am beTasoO and I would like to atleast try my best to convice everyone i am not a smurt..
Firstly I have always have played on this acc and can be looked into in the mtach histroy...
Also my match histroy shows i had played alot of diamond players in past 2 weeks...
Not to mention the amazing coashing from Random, a master zerg player.
I do feel bad that I am arrousing questions about smurfing on my part but just because i won a match against dia zerg doesn't mean i am a smurf. If u wan the replays just let me know i will be more then happy to upload them.
I am sorry if me beating the MArinefifty player made everyone question about the skills and smurfing but I for one am an honest player with one account and thats it....
thank you for your time in reading this.
^^ and best wiches for the rest of the gmes that are left ^^

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ToRPandarine:

english cld use some work but at least he came to defend himself :)

**ToR.Arnor** · Thu, 29th-Mar-2012, 9:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by betasoo

Hi I am beTasoO and I would like to atleast try my best to convice everyone i am not a smurt..
Firstly I have always have played on this acc and can be looked into in the mtach histroy...
Also my match histroy shows i had played alot of diamond players in past 2 weeks...
Not to mention the amazing coashing from Random, a master zerg player.
I do feel bad that I am arrousing questions about smurfing on my part but just because i won a match against dia zerg doesn't mean i am a smurf. If u wan the replays just let me know i will be more then happy to upload them.
I am sorry if me beating the MArinefifty player made everyone question about the skills and smurfing but I for one am an honest player with one account and thats it....
thank you for your time in reading this.
^^ and best wiches for the rest of the gmes that are left ^^

Hey buddy, are you able to give some replays to a couple admins? best to upload them to the site so everyone can see

Security · Thu, 29th-Mar-2012, 9:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by betasoo

Hi I am beTasoO and I would like to atleast try my best to convice everyone i am not a smurt..
Firstly I have always have played on this acc and can be looked into in the mtach histroy...
Also my match histroy shows i had played alot of diamond players in past 2 weeks...
Not to mention the amazing coashing from Random, a master zerg player.
I do feel bad that I am arrousing questions about smurfing on my part but just because i won a match against dia zerg doesn't mean i am a smurf. If u wan the replays just let me know i will be more then happy to upload them.
I am sorry if me beating the MArinefifty player made everyone question about the skills and smurfing but I for one am an honest player with one account and thats it....
thank you for your time in reading this.
^^ and best wiches for the rest of the gmes that are left ^^

It is a poor reason to think he is a smurf if all he did was beat a

. I was

last week and I beat a

and not a single question was asked.

x5_Potter · Thu, 29th-Mar-2012, 9:39 PM

If the replays are sent then they should be analysed my Maynarde and someone of his choice not from TA or ZC. I know nobody would be biased, but just to make sure.

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	krycek:
	FSDele:	Make BenAD do it! he loves replays!
	VB_Blake:

ToRPandarine · Thu, 29th-Mar-2012, 9:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChickDealer

I was last week and I beat a and not a single question was asked.

i was in

and i beat

and

players..not a matter of league its a matter of how good the player is

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FSDele:

Lots of people are like me, and don't get enough time to ladder to get the promo!

**ToR.Arnor** · Thu, 29th-Mar-2012, 9:52 PM

Just wanted to add Im sorry I tried to call out TAEaeron tonight for a poor reschedule, I was extremely annoyed at the acusations against Beta and just wanted to take a swing back, I was wrong of me.

I look forward to the remainder of the series and hope ZC can clinch a victory

really really interesting season, coming right down to the wire

**syfChadMann** · Thu, 29th-Mar-2012, 9:56 PM

I check the SC2Ranks of every player against TA each week.. each manager should do this to weed out smurfs. BeTasoO also has barely played this season - if at all.
Additionally the matter has be brought up with the SEAL admins to review - where myself or Arnor will not have input into the decision.

Don't think it's biased because I take the time to check players before matches. BeTassO was a 1400 Diamond league player.. This is why he is being alleged as a smurf - not because he beat a Diamond player. I raised this issue with Arnor and Edarus before or shortly after the end of the first match between MarineFifty and BeTasoO.

EDIT, and Diamond players are not permitted to be subbed into this tournament - MarineFifty was plat when he signed up and was promoted. This being the crux of the issue regarding his legibility for this tournament - VB asked to sub in a Diamond player mid season and were denied, ZeroCraft should have the same rules applied to them.

breadfan · Thu, 29th-Mar-2012, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TAChadMann

I check the SC2Ranks of every player against TA each week.. each manager should do this to weed out smurfs. BeTasoO also has barely played this season - if at all.
Additionally the matter has be brought up with the SEAL admins to review - where myself or Arnor will not have input into the decision.

Don't think it's biased because I take the time to check players before matches. BeTassO was a 1400 Diamond league player.. This is why he is being alleged as a smurf - not because he beat a Diamond player. I raised this issue with Arnor and Edarus before or shortly after the end of the first match between MarineFifty and BeTasoO.

EDIT, and Diamond players are not permitted to be subbed into this tournament - MarineFifty was plat when he signed up and was promoted. This being the crux of the issue regarding his legibility for this tournament - VB asked to sub in a Diamond player mid season and were denied, ZeroCraft should have the same rules applied to them.

Shouldn't we be looking at replays from the start of the season / when he joined the team then?

I mean, all that matters is if he legitimately dropped in skill from the previous season's 1400 dia to SEACL's start. If he did, then improved to dia level again, I don't see that as being any different to any other player who earned a dia promotion this season

Volition · Thu, 29th-Mar-2012, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TAChadMann

Don't think it's biased because I take the time to check players before matches. BeTassO was a 1400 Diamond league player.. This is why he is being alleged as a smurf - not because he beat a Diamond player. I raised this issue with Arnor and Edarus before or shortly after the end of the first match between MarineFifty and BeTasoO.

My only question is why this has become an issue after a game win to ZC. Why wasnt this raised when you discovered it? Surely this should have been discussed during the day - not after a crucial game win to ZC and against TA.

Either way, i dont think it will matter. This is only the regular season after all - the playoffs are all that is coming

tier 5 has been great, really manner between every team. As the stakes got higher, so have the the tempers. This will all blow over in the morning, let's just everyone take the night off playing detective and posting.

GG minimat, you were way better than me tonight

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krycek:

finally some rep

**syfChadMann** · Thu, 29th-Mar-2012, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volition

My only question is why this has become an issue after a game win to ZC. Why wasnt this raised when you discovered it? Surely this should have been discussed during the day - not after a crucial game win to ZC and against TA.

LIke I said - the issue was raised before MarineFifty and beTasoO finished their games. It was only brought out publicly after the match had concluded.

x5_Potter · Fri, 30th-Mar-2012, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TAChadMann

VB asked to sub in a Diamond player mid season and were denied, ZeroCraft should have the same rules applied to them.

I don't think that was us o.0

**syfChadMann** · Fri, 30th-Mar-2012, 1:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VB_Potthead

I don't think that was us o.0

It wasn't?.. I'm sure there were request to sub in players that were diamond and those requests were denied.

Regardless, Smoky has told me he is free Friday night or over the weekend..

ty!

QEDFridge · Fri, 30th-Mar-2012, 1:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TAChadMann

It wasn't?.. I'm sure there were request to sub in players that were diamond and those requests were denied.

Regardless, Smoky has told me he is free Friday night or over the weekend..

ty!

I inquired mid season whether the rules would allow a diamond sub, but I didn't TRY to. so whether you are referring to me?

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syfChadMann:

could be...