Let me summarise what happened from my perspective before this thread gets locked. I will try to be as least bias as possible.
1~Infi joins SEACL and SEACC on coniditon that admins accomodate them (though not mentioning to what extent)for their trimmed roster.
2~Infi cannot play the games vs xeria gaming, asks for reschedule, benji takes the forfeit, (benji very vocal about strict rulings all along) infi demonstrate hate publicly to Benji.
3-Infi and xeria both makes SEACC finals. No previous BOx rules for finals were set. Admins and fans wanted BO9, to be more exciting. Infi prefers BO7 due to roster/schedule issues. Xeria prefered BO9 because they felt they had a deeper roster. Admins decision note: infi willing to accept BO9 with Revival, benji refuses as per preference to BO9
4-Admins decide BO9, Roz enters chatbox, vocal abt his displeasure with such decision. Makes it known to many (including myself) that Infi can only field 4 players. Xeria prefers BO9 but dont want a free 1-0 lead.
5-Admins change to BO7, No complaints from xeria.
5.5 -xeria vs wayi spider show match, revival instilled, roz lets it known in thread of benjis double-standards
6-Finals night, Jazbas late/drunk,iaguz starts instead, admin gave Infi decision to choose another player, infi voices displeasure of this decision
7-Infi wins with Targa scoring an impressive all kill
8-All sides well mannered and cool
9a-Iceiceice/Targa attempts to troll Revenant (also possibly to spite Benji and get some rises out of people, will not be presumptiously conclusive here), leaking image of private chatlog which contains offensive material to xeria . Iaguz responds with some displeasure.
9b-Detective Mafia suggests through his findings that infijokes(infi 5th player) was plenty available on Finals night, publicly asks clarification, Roz tells mafia to not be presumptious/sore loser, does not clarify situation.
10-xgKingLight reads leaked private chat, very vocal in forum about offensiveness of such material
11-Rev ensures its just trolling, Light decides to relax and move on, as do rest of xgking. everything seems to have come to an end...
12-Roz logs on, quote "we really dont care that much about what you think, all i can say is stop crying.
You got rolled, suck it."
12.5-Edge's epic picture!
13-People fired up again, Chadmann emplores all to think abt ESPORTS and stop fighting!(i agree)
& THAT IS ALL OF INFI VS XG DRAMA SO FAR! STAY TUNED FOR MORE!
*If i am wrong in these facts, please let me know*
Last edited by nGenLight; Sat, 24th-Mar-2012 at 12:40 AM.
9b-Detective Mafia suggests through his findings that infijokes(infi 5th player) was plenty available on Finals night, publicly asks clarification, Roz tells mafia to not be presumptious/sore loser, does not clarify situation.
I have no much comment on the drama as I don't have all the keys to understand all what happened between both teams since that initial "forfeit taken".
But since the first post of Mafia this point intrigues me. If this is true, it seems to me that this would be serious enough to have an answer. Why would Infi has 5 players available and only shows the best 4 of them ?
Roz, instead of being mean to Xeria, could you gives us an explanation ?
I have no much comment on the drama as I don't have all the keys to understand all what happened between both teams since that initial "forfeit taken".
But since the first post of Mafia this point intrigues me. If this is true, it seems to me that this would be serious enough to have an answer. Why would Infi has 5 players available and only shows the best 4 of them ?
Roz, instead of being mean to Xeria, could you gives us an explanation ?
I think i need to step in just to clarify that point.
In the SEACC thread the format was indicated as Bo7. xG proposed it to be Bo9 because it's better for the show (thing that i agree). However, inFi being in final also has their right to give their opinion. The fact that they don't want the final to be Bo9 is 100% legit. It was not written in the thread that final would be Bo9 so why would we change the format after competition started.
I believe the majority wanted Bo9, however, if it's not stated in the thread it's not fair to change rules half-way. The exact same thing happened when i wanted to put play-offs after week 4 and xG was the only team to refuse claiming it was not fair for them as the thread was stating no play-offs for all league (fair point once again).
We can change rules/format half-way only if all parties agree, which was clearly not the case for the format final and the play-offs.
So in terms of fairness, the final of SEACC had to be Bo7. I don't want further polemics on that particular point.
I think i need to step in just to clarify that point.
In the SEACC thread the format was indicated as Bo7. xG proposed it to be Bo9 because it's better for the show (thing that i agree). However, inFi being in final also has their right to give their opinion. The fact that they don't want the final to be Bo9 is 100% legit. It was not written in the thread that final would be Bo9 so why would we change the format after competition started.
I believe the majority wanted Bo9, however, if it's not stated in the thread it's not fair to change rules half-way. The exact same thing happened when i wanted to put play-offs after week 4 and xG was the only team to refuse claiming it was not fair for them as the thread was stating no play-offs for all league (fair point once again).
We can change rules/format half-way only if all parties agree, which was clearly not the case for the format final and the play-offs.
So in terms of fairness, the final of SEACC had to be Bo7. I don't want further polemics on that particular point.
The finals format was not decided/stated anywhere until 2 days before finals. AFAIK admins wanted bo9 viewers wanted bo9, the only person who wanted bo7 was Roz.
This is what nirvAnA said a week before the finals.
[14/03/2012 11:20:53 PM] bryan choo -: the default as it is, is a Bo9
[14/03/2012 11:21:12 PM] Freddy Chi: think about it this way
[14/03/2012 11:21:19 PM] bryan choo -: what im thinking of is either
A) Switch it to a BO7
B) Switch it to a BO9 with 1 revival
Note: BOTH teams must agree
and also Frogmite you weren't even around during the SEACC finals
AFAIK admins wanted bo9 viewers wanted bo9, the only person who wanted bo7 was Roz.
This doesn't sound at all similar to you? Seriously? This is getting ridiculous dude.
Also, the thread not stating "The finals will also be Bo7" doesn't mean you'd assume there would be a rule change from the entire season from it being Bo7...
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