[breadfan]

Originally Posted by Statix

all i can say with promotion is play lots of games and as long as ur winning 50% of them ull get promoted. I was drip drapping games for best part of 6 months and feeling like i was never going to get out and then i took a holiday and hit the ladder hard, was out during that same week . . . yes, prolly 100 games later, but if ur not already subscribed get the GM manuals and literally follow the walkthrough builds and watch the replay which executes them, its just pro, believe me got me to gold in korea

You actually need to win more than 50% - if you only win exactly 50%, your MMR will never change because you're playing at exactly the level you should be!

[TAScaramanga]

Originally Posted by breadfan

You actually need to win more than 50% - if you only win exactly 50%, your MMR will never change because you're playing at exactly the level you should be!

Yeah 50% winnrate keeps your mmr stale

[Statix]

Originally Posted by breadfan

You actually need to win more than 50% - if you only win exactly 50%, your MMR will never change because you're playing at exactly the level you should be!

I dont think MMR rating goes off just wins though and looking into this over the last year and watching my friends get promoted who have around a 50% win rate just like me are getting promoted. Just because you lost a game doesnt mean to say you are the worse player of the two in sc2 as it could have been down to a mis-rally

i think it goes off a macro Vs gametime + wins(against skill level) and then blizz calculates army values and resource collection rate . cos i swear when i was getting promoted to silver from bronze i was loosing a lot more than i was winning but still got promoted.

just to add, Apollo has done a tut series and you can clearly see his APM is way off the scale compared to a regular bronze and it started matching him against plats pretty quickly after 10 wins or so, ive had 70wins in my league and gold have only featured a few times in my matchups making me think ,yeah the wins are counted of course but i dont think they may be the rolling factor in MMR

[breadfan]

Originally Posted by Statix

I dont think MMR rating goes off just wins though and looking into this over the last year and watching my friends get promoted who have around a 50% win rate just like me are getting promoted. Just because you lost a game doesnt mean to say you are the worse player of the two in sc2 as it could have been down to a mis-rally

i think it goes off a macro Vs gametime + wins(against skill level) and then blizz calculates army values and resource collection rate . cos i swear when i was getting promoted to silver from bronze i was loosing a lot more than i was winning but still got promoted.

just to add, Apollo has done a tut series and you can clearly see his APM is way off the scale compared to a regular bronze and it started matching him against plats pretty quickly after 10 wins or so, ive had 70wins in my league and gold have only featured a few times in my matchups making me think ,yeah the wins are counted of course but i dont think they may be the rolling factor in MMR

No, it's quite literally just your win rate and the MMR of your opponents.

You might win 3 games in a row - first person has MMR 1500, the 3rd person is favoured and has an MMR of 1650. So from now on you are playing vs people at around 1650 also, so even if you maintain 50%, you end up in front of where you were originally.

Apollo got promoted that far and fast because he went 10-0, not because his APM is high. He went from beating bronze players consistently to beating silver players consistently to beating gold players consistently, etc. If you lost at any point, match making says "you can lose against these players, so this is at least close to where you belong". There's an abuse of a flaw in this system where people deliberately tank their MMR to bronze and when the next season starts, they win a quick 40 games in a row or whatever and skyrocket into GM. Not sure if it's fixed.