[syfChadMann]

Originally Posted by AsylumofSouls

I've always been under the impression that having 2 points allocated to the ace matchup makes the other games almost meaningless in comparison.
When you can win 8 games out of 12 and still only get a draw, this just seems wrong to me.

This may or may not be true.. but it is the format we have been given to work with.. and will be the format in the Playoffs..

having 5 matches worth 1 and 1 match worth 2 does devalue the ace match significantly - to win, a team needs to win at least an equal number of matches.. and the Ace match - which is inherently a tactical match to develop more strategy in matches..

Take for example the recent TA v QED Krrn... Edarus and I spent a bit of time working out the likely QED Ace - as Schnitzel.. and knew that his weakest match up was going to be when we force him to off race - as he has elected to play ZvP rather than PvP - so send a Protoss at him, however - we were going to send our best player MarineFifty - a Zerg, but that would have given Schnitzel a favourable match up... Therefore we knew we needed a Protoss Ace and Edarus stepped up to the plate to take on the Zerg Ace of Schnitzel... This tactical planning would not have been possible if there was no Ace match.

This is why it will take a lot to convince me to remove the Ace match.. the tactics of this match make the games more dynamic.

However, having an extra 1 point match will lessen the effect of the Ace match somewhat and mean there is no chance for draws.

[breadfan]

Originally Posted by TAChadMann

Take for example the recent TA v QED Krrn... Edarus and I spent a bit of time working out the likely QED Ace - as Schnitzel.. and knew that his weakest match up was going to be when we force him to off race - as he has elected to play ZvP rather than PvP - so send a Protoss at him, however - we were going to send our best player MarineFifty - a Zerg, but that would have given Schnitzel a favourable match up... Therefore we knew we needed a Protoss Ace and Edarus stepped up to the plate to take on the Zerg Ace of Schnitzel... This tactical planning would not have been possible if there was no Ace match.

You retain this just by having the cap on plats and the requirement of sending players out in order of league.

So now, instead of just being about a single game, you have 5. Managers need to look at the 3 plats a team has, determine their races, and think about who is most likely to play where. They also need to consider their own team and think to themselves... Are any of these maps, for example, a "zerg" map, and if so will they just gameplan for me putting a zerg on the map, therefore I'll play a protoss.

Honestly, i love the way the planning of teams adds to the dynamincs of the match, but I don't think you lose that. I honestly think a Bo5 is better than a blind pick tiebreaker for all involved.

[AsylumofSouls]

Originally Posted by TAChadMann

This may or may not be true.. but it is the format we have been given to work with.. and will be the format in the Playoffs..

having 5 matches worth 1 and 1 match worth 2 does devalue the ace match significantly - to win, a team needs to win at least an equal number of matches.. and the Ace match - which is inherently a tactical match to develop more strategy in matches..

In fact if 3 games went 2 - 0 to team A and the other 3 (inc Ace match) went 2 - 1 to team B, this would result in a 9 - 6 game lead for Team A and a win overall for Team B, 4 points to 3.
This is games though, not matches as you have pointed out.

Originally Posted by TAChadMann

However, having an extra 1 point match will lessen the effect of the Ace match somewhat and mean there is no chance for draws.

Just wanted to point out that mathematically, Team A still has 150% the wins of Team B, the only difference now is that Team B wins rather than draws.

Of course that's all just theory and I will definitely be pleased to have the chance to play in whatever is decided and as always I sincerely appreciate the effort that goes in each week behind the scenes.

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breadfan:

Would hate to be Team A in this scenario - I'd feel robbed!