[xetech]

Quick post before I go to work...

Calcifer himself at the very least (if you don't believe any other ons members were online) could have been the sub had he truly believed game 1 was being walkovered instead of being rescheduled... (so it's not like we had deliberate intentions to not want to waste our subs seeing as its our last game of the season).

I feel as though it really was a breakdown in communications. If you couldn't get through to calcifer, as in no response or agreement, then the correct course of action would have been to seek official support... we have seen and learnt from this example. I hope we can respect and listen to the admins decision and move on now. Thank you for everyone's understanding.

[Snx.FigJig]

Originally Posted by xetech

Quick post before I go to work...

Calcifer himself at the very least (if you don't believe any other ons members were online) could have been the sub had he truly believed game 1 was being walkovered instead of being rescheduled... (so it's not like we had deliberate intentions to not want to waste our subs seeing as its our last game of the season).

I feel as though it really was a breakdown in communications. If you couldn't get through to calcifer, as in no response or agreement, then the correct course of action would have been to seek official support... we have seen and learnt from this example. I hope we can respect and listen to the admins decision and move on now. Thank you for everyone's understanding.

We told him may times about reschedules and that we cant make that time, no reply, and after 2hrs he brings up subs. Not our problem, we did everything we could to get the match done. We should not be penalized because cal cannot understand simple english. Get someone se to manage the team, other teams shouldnt be forced to work around ons because the manager is incompentent.

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[syfChadMann]

Originally Posted by nRvPickleWeasel

We told him may times about reschedules and that we cant make that time, no reply, and after 2hrs he brings up subs. Not our problem, we did everything we could to get the match done. We should not be penalized because cal cannot understand simple english. Get someone se to manage the team, other teams shouldnt be forced to work around ons because the manager is incompentent.

Take the admin decision and move on. Ever watched Soccer matches (or played)? ever seen the ref change his mind after a decision?..No.

Complaining only makes it worse for you.

[Snx.FigJig]

Originally Posted by TAChadMann

Take the admin decision and move on. Ever watched Soccer matches (or played)? ever seen the ref change his mind after a decision?..No.

Complaining only makes it worse for you.

yea, and when the umpire makes a decision that goes against the rules it's reviewed and they're usually given the sack depending how serious their breach of the rules is. Same situation here. If you don't question and argue blatant wrong decisions, nothing is going to improve.

[syfChadMann]

Originally Posted by nRvPickleWeasel

yea, and when the umpire makes a decision that goes against the rules it's reviewed and they're usually given the sack depending how serious their breach of the rules is. Same situation here. If you don't question and argue blatant wrong decisions, nothing is going to improve.

I've never seen a decision reviewed or an umpire given the sack over one decision, even the allowed goal by Henry against Republic of Ireland (thnx Phoney ) for qualification into the world cup was clearly a hand ball - yet the decision wasn't over turned - France went to the finals.

Regardless, the judging board of the umpires in this situation is all the SEAL Admins, we've all spoken about it, the decision stands and we agree with it. Taking walk overs is not in the spirit of the competition and in this case your whining is only strengthening the case to not allow your team to take the walk overs. Managers should always be trying to play the games.. not take free wins - your team is here to play.

Take the decision like grown up and move on.

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	phoney:	Henry handballed against Rep. of Ireland :p
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	Nemo:	Don't remind me this shame plz :(

[Snx.FigJig]

Originally Posted by TAChadMann

I've never seen a decision reviewed or an umpire given the sack over one decision, even the allowed goal by Henry against Scottland (I think it was) for qualification into the world cup was clearly a hand ball - yet the decision wasn't over turned - France went to the finals.

Regardless, the judging board of the umpires in this situation is all the SEAL Admins, we've all spoken about it, the decision stands and we agree with it. Taking walk overs is not in the spirit of the competition and in this case your whining is only strengthening the case to not allow your team to take the walk overs. Managers should always be trying to play the games.. not take free wins - your team is here to play.

Take the decision like grown up and move on.

If this is the case nRv should not be singled out. xGking vs infi has to be rescheduled and played, as well as all other walkovers that have happened in SEACL. Do this for everyone, or don't do it at all.

Regards to the umpire decisions being reviewed, it has happened many times before. Either way, sports analogies are irrelevant. Soccer format is nothing like this.

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[Frogmite]

Originally Posted by nRvPickleWeasel

If this is the case nRv should not be singled out. xGking vs infi has to be rescheduled and played, as well as all other walkovers that have happened in SEACL. Do this for everyone, or don't do it at all.

Regards to the umpire decisions being reviewed, it has happened many times before. Either way, sports analogies are irrelevant. Soccer format is nothing like this.

It's two different things. I was the one to give walkover to xgking because i was discussing with both team leaders. inFi couldn't play on that week and said that if xgking can't re-schedule they will forfeit. xgking didn't want to re-schedule so i gave them the walkover.

Originally Posted by nRvBard

So what is the final decision? As I feel I have proved

"If you can show me that no onslaught players were not connected 15 minutes after the start of the game we'll give the walkover."

Saying in this thread that they were not connected is not enough. An admin needs to witness it.