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Old Fri, 24th-Feb-2012, 7:57 PM Total Posts Made: 828 # 1
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DeltaV production tab hacker
Played this guy on ladder a few times and he had a very odd ability to sense what I was doing every time.
Going to save future replays as evidence as don't think I have any saved from the earlier times

http://www.sc2sea.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=766
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This one at 4:30 he has probe position at his FFE wall waiting possibly to drop cyber core
My roach warren goes down and few seconds later he puts pylon where he'd want his cyber core and adds a second cannon. I denied his fake scouting (as he doesn't even click it into my base just clicks it below the ramp outside my natural)
You could argue that maybe he just wanted to be safe but he continues to add 2 additional cannons for a total of 4. Not to mention he made one zealot he sent to the tower that I killed with 4 lings. He had no vision no prompt to make 4 cannons and go straight for sentries and chronoing his warpgate while holding position a probe and sentry at gap in the wall.
His actions are while not 100% definitive, are absolutely indicative of reactionary play to an all in he knows is coming that he shouldn't have
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Old Fri, 24th-Feb-2012, 9:44 PM Who's Who:   BattleTag: delete12#6306  Race: Clan: aLt  Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 391 # 2
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DeltaV production tab hacker
Played this guy on ladder a few times and he had a very odd ability to sense what I was doing every time.
Going to save future replays as evidence as don't think I have any saved from the earlier times

http://www.sc2sea.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=766
+ Show +

This one at 4:30 he has probe position at his FFE wall waiting possibly to drop cyber core
My roach warren goes down and few seconds later he puts pylon where he'd want his cyber core and adds a second cannon. I denied his fake scouting (as he doesn't even click it into my base just clicks it below the ramp outside my natural)
You could argue that maybe he just wanted to be safe but he continues to add 2 additional cannons for a total of 4. Not to mention he made one zealot he sent to the tower that I killed with 4 lings. He had no vision no prompt to make 4 cannons and go straight for sentries and chronoing his warpgate while holding position a probe and sentry at gap in the wall.
His actions are while not 100% definitive, are absolutely indicative of reactionary play to an all in he knows is coming that he shouldn't have
I think you should have stayed in the game until the end, you weren't too far behind. Just saying.

But yeah, 4 blind cannons is strange. would like to see more replays of this guy
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Old Fri, 24th-Feb-2012, 9:45 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: Apth.767  Race: Location: Auckland, New Zealand  Total Posts Made: 414 # 3
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DeltaV production tab hacker
Played this guy on ladder a few times and he had a very odd ability to sense what I was doing every time.
Going to save future replays as evidence as don't think I have any saved from the earlier times

http://www.sc2sea.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=766
  • Doesn't scout your expo
  • Puts up a whole heap of cannons in anticipation of a Roach rush he doesn't know is coming
Indicative of hacking? Yes.
Proof? Unfortunately not.

I'd say that in all likelihood this guy is hacking, but unfortunately this is one of the instances of suspicious behaviour that could be explained away by game sense or random chance.

IMO - benefit of the doubt for now, any further evidence will be the nail in the coffin.
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Old Fri, 24th-Feb-2012, 9:51 PM BnetId: Eldrid.367  Race: Location: Sydney, Penrith  Total Posts Made: 169 # 4
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Originally Posted by FaDeMeatex View Post
DeltaV production tab hacker
Played this guy on ladder a few times and he had a very odd ability to sense what I was doing every time.
Going to save future replays as evidence as don't think I have any saved from the earlier times

http://www.sc2sea.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=766
+ Show +

This one at 4:30 he has probe position at his FFE wall waiting possibly to drop cyber core
My roach warren goes down and few seconds later he puts pylon where he'd want his cyber core and adds a second cannon. I denied his fake scouting (as he doesn't even click it into my base just clicks it below the ramp outside my natural)
You could argue that maybe he just wanted to be safe but he continues to add 2 additional cannons for a total of 4. Not to mention he made one zealot he sent to the tower that I killed with 4 lings. He had no vision no prompt to make 4 cannons and go straight for sentries and chronoing his warpgate while holding position a probe and sentry at gap in the wall.
His actions are while not 100% definitive, are absolutely indicative of reactionary play to an all in he knows is coming that he shouldn't have

I watched this replay, and it seems a little sus.

Just on the making of the 4 cannons:

I have played protoss (and have them in my clan, and have talked to them about their decision making on this exact topic...)
When a protoss scouts gas first, and then CANT scout if you make an expansion due to having their probe killed (he did try to scout your expo, your lings killed it before it saw anything) the only safe way to play is to drop 3-4 cannons *incase* you roach all-in (practiced this all-in extensively, i learnt to deny scouting as you did, and this was the only way my clan-mates could stop the all in after having scouting denied). You cant react, you need to have defense up "just in case".

This is GM level decision making though. I dont actually know if it applies to a diamond level game. Perhaps this particular player loses to roach allin's alot and just made the cannons for safety? i don't know. I would label this as suspicious, certainly, but he did scout your gas first *however* he didnt scout if you went over 100 gas aka speed -> pull off gas -> economy only with speed build, this is the part that makes me suspicious.

Need more replays to confirm 30000% certainty.

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Thats right, if we are blind we are forced necessary defence for potential all in
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