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Unread Tue, 21st-Feb-2012, 8:27 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: nGenJazBas.131  Race: Location: Auckland  Total Posts Made: 422 # 1
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I really dont mind the favoritism on stream so much.

What i think is fark up is that Benji chose to take the walk over in this todays match against inFi. If what i heard was correct, inFi asked for a reschedule and benji rejected it. I suspect the reason for it is because of targa's epic humour post somewhr im not gonna link you.

I dont see why a reschedule is not possible since the xGKing guys play almost every night anyways. Some of them didnt even know they are not playing today and getting the walk over iirc. So yeah, dont be bitch. Not only is it unfair to the inFi guys, its unfair to ppl like me who are looking forward to the games. Also, do u want this to set a precedent where teams will reject reschedules hoping to get a walk over?
IMO

Although I agree with almost everything people say, regarding this walk over thing, I don't really agree.

Asking for walkover is asking for a favour. And asking for a favour, getting rejected shouldn't mean to get angry about it. Ok saying this is very sad of me as I'm part of inFi too. BUT, I don't know, asking for a favour, getting rejected, and getting angry about it seems wrong.

And the rule says (if I'm not mistaken) if both teams not agree with reschedule, it ends in walkover. I agree completely with people about Benji being negative about the game more than positive, making offensive jokes etc etc, but rejecting a walkover doesn't seem like something that should be criticised.

I heard that inFi agreed to play in SEACL in regards to games being able to be flexible with the time, but xGKing clearly didn't know this and this is the fault of the admin (not stabbing at them in anyway. Just if this is the issue, Benji isn't the problem).

I don't know. I don't see how rejecting a favour is criticised.
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Unread Tue, 21st-Feb-2012, 8:32 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TCPfrogmite.365  Race: Clan: TCP  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 908 # 2
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IMO

Although I agree with almost everything people say, regarding this walk over thing, I don't really agree.

Asking for walkover is asking for a favour. And asking for a favour, getting rejected shouldn't mean to get angry about it. Ok saying this is very sad of me as I'm part of inFi too. BUT, I don't know, asking for a favour, getting rejected, and getting angry about it seems wrong.

And the rule says (if I'm not mistaken) if both teams not agree with reschedule, it ends in walkover. I agree completely with people about Benji being negative about the game more than positive, making offensive jokes etc etc, but rejecting a walkover doesn't seem like something that should be criticised.

I heard that inFi agreed to play in SEACL in regards to games being able to be flexible with the time, but xGKing clearly didn't know this and this is the fault of the admin (not stabbing at them in anyway. Just if this is the issue, Benji isn't the problem).

I don't know. I don't see how rejecting a favour is criticised.
I told inFi that we can work on re-schedule for their games and it's what we did for the first 5 weeks. Some of their games are still to be played. The thing is that they didn't even give roster and they ask on the monday night to re-schedule the 5 games for next week. The rules still stand. It's not fair for other teams to automatically allow re-schedules. I agree to help but i can't be the only one to make effort.

Don't put this on admins please i am sweating since day 1 to make inFi play all their games in SEACL.

Would like also to add something for all who criticize Benji on the fact to take the walkovers. You don't have to accept re-schedule, it's always nice to accept but in the end you put your team in trouble because the other team is not able to make it. Furthermore, Benji was informed on the monday night that the other team wanted to re-schedule, and not one game, but all of them, so not so easy to re-schedule. Finally, the "troublesome" post came up and then you find yourself in a position where the team who asks you for a favor just publicly calling you "a sad piece of shit". Not sure a lot of you would have accepted a re-schedule in those conditions.

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Unread Tue, 21st-Feb-2012, 8:36 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: nGenJazBas.131  Race: Location: Auckland  Total Posts Made: 422 # 3
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I told inFi that we can work on re-schedule for their games and it's what we did for the first 5 weeks. Some of their games are still to be played. The thing is that they didn't even give roster and they ask on the monday night to re-schedule the 5 games for next week. The rules still stand. It's not fair for other teams to automatically allow re-schedules. I agree to help but i am not baby-sitting.

Don't put this on admins please i am sweating since day 1 to make inFi play all their games so far.
As I said, I'm not putting this on admin. It's that the fact that we didn't know inFi has agreed to play this given that they can work on reschedule for games, is not Benji's fault at all.

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Unread Tue, 21st-Feb-2012, 8:44 PM BnetId: aLtShortizz.576  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 322 # 4
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IMO

Although I agree with almost everything people say, regarding this walk over thing, I don't really agree.

Asking for walkover is asking for a favour. And asking for a favour, getting rejected shouldn't mean to get angry about it. Ok saying this is very sad of me as I'm part of inFi too. BUT, I don't know, asking for a favour, getting rejected, and getting angry about it seems wrong.

And the rule says (if I'm not mistaken) if both teams not agree with reschedule, it ends in walkover. I agree completely with people about Benji being negative about the game more than positive, making offensive jokes etc etc, but rejecting a walkover doesn't seem like something that should be criticised.

I heard that inFi agreed to play in SEACL in regards to games being able to be flexible with the time, but xGKing clearly didn't know this and this is the fault of the admin (not stabbing at them in anyway. Just if this is the issue, Benji isn't the problem).

I don't know. I don't see how rejecting a favour is criticised.
Im not criticising him as a person or whatever, Im just criticising this decision.

I was looking forward to watch the match and im sure there are alot of other ppl like me. Thats why i feel that rejecting it just for the sake of it is retarded. If u have a reason to do so, by all means, take the win. If u can make it another day, why not? This is just 1 game and it can be played the next weekor anytime this week imo it wont hurt the schedule.

Also like i said, this sets the precedent, teams are more likely to take the ''walkover'' now. Many good games might be forfeited due to this and thats not a good thing for fans like me!
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Unread Tue, 21st-Feb-2012, 8:48 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: nGenJazBas.131  Race: Location: Auckland  Total Posts Made: 422 # 5
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Im not criticising him as a person or whatever, Im just criticising this decision.

I was looking forward to watch the match and im sure there are alot of other ppl like me. Thats why i feel that rejecting it just for the sake of it is retarded. If u have a reason to do so, by all means, take the win. If u can make it another day, why not? This is just 1 game and it can be played the next weekor anytime this week imo it wont hurt the schedule.

Also like i said, this sets the precedent, teams are more likely to take the ''walkover'' now. Many good games might be forfeited due to this and thats not a good thing for fans like me!
Many games being rescheduled is not so great imo too. The best way is every game played at the time it is supposed to be. But to be fair, this isn't possible most of the times.

But the fact is, omo, the reason of benji rejecting because he doesn't want our games being unplayed for the next 3 weeks or w/e is pretty reasonable as I said before
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Unread Tue, 21st-Feb-2012, 8:54 PM BnetId: aLtShortizz.576  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 322 # 6
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Many games being rescheduled is not so great imo too. The best way is every game played at the time it is supposed to be. But to be fair, this isn't possible most of the times.

But the fact is, omo, the reason of benji rejecting because he doesn't want our games being unplayed for the next 3 weeks or w/e is pretty reasonable as I said before
But why 3 weeks? If thats the amount of time inFi wanted to postpone den i suppose its reasonable to take the walk over.

I dont agree with too many games being postponed either. IMO it rewards a team with a small lineup, Bigger clans with a deep lineup shld be able to take advantage of the situation when it comes to getting ppl online on the day.

However, since the beginning, the rescheduling has been going on. And i suppose its in the ''spirit'' of our awesome community to accomdate as much as possible. Like i said, before the whole match being forfeited is really too much. I just dont see why something cant be worked out like so many other games that had to be rescheduled.

PS: I understand your point and do note that in no way am i critcising benji. Its just this decision that makes me feels meh.

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