[LoRDo]

Hi all!

This is the official thread announcing my intention to run an online Starcraft II tourney for SC2SEA! Information about the event can be found below but first some information about me.

+ [About Me] +

My name is Patrick “LoRDo” Gordon. I’m 22, work full time in IT, study part time and I have been gaming since as long as I can remember. I first started taking gaming seriously when I was in my early teens playing Counter-strike 1.5 and 1.6 in the Brisbane LAN and online scene. I was pretty crap, but it didn’t stop me from playing. As I grew up I played and quit WoW (terrible game hehe) and finally found closure in the strategic brilliance of MOBA and RTS games like Heroes of Newerth and Starcraft II. Whilst I like playing these games, I probably prefer watching them even more, tuning in to streams and casts as often as possible.

My greatest passion in life is eSports. If I was given the chance, I would work, live, breath and eat eSports 24/7.

Whilst I am sucky-ish at the games I so much love to play and watch, I appreciate that there are people out there who are amazing at it. I know for a fact that the day eSports gets to be on a world platform in a stadium with teams with cheering fans (GSL but maybe Superbowl level?) that I will be there with bells on, even if I’m 90 years old.

+ [Community Influence] +

I don’t have experience running events. As such, I’m putting a call out to everyone to help me make this to be an absolutely awesome experience for everyone. I want this to be a community event to the very core. I would like the members of the community to have a say in things like the map pool, the preferred dates/times, and some other things too.

I would like help running the tourney from people with past experience, to help cast the event, to help promote and to help expand on the prize pool.

I’d like people to put their hand up and say “yes, I would like to be involved in helping making this awesome”.

Why?

I want it to be this way because eSports is a fledgling at the moment. Sure, it’s getting bigger and more awesome, but we can help to propel it even further by uniting as a community – as this community does so often – to help it grow bigger in our own corner of the world!

I will talk about what I’m going to be contributing in another section.

+ [Tournament Particulars] +

As I mentioned I wanted this to be a community run tournament. So I was thinking of having a series of polls which would allow the community to determine things like:
- Map pool
- Dates/times
- Whether we allow foreigners (NA/Eu/KR) to be invited
- Perhaps the structure its run in (bo31s?!? [jokes])

As for prizes I will be injecting $500AUD to the prize pool to start with. I would be calling on others to contribute whatever they can – money, gear, vouchers, coaching lessons, hugs, etcetera.

Anyway, that is my intention. Please answer the poll and let me know if this is something YOU would be interested, my friends of the SC2 SEA community! If not, I will cry and rock myself to sleep.
Thanks all.

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	x5.Revenant:	+1 for the "work, live, breath and eat eSports 24/7" <3
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	Asrathiel:	I shall donate hugs :D :D
	breadfan:	great initiative
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Originally Posted by LoRDo

$500AUD to the prize pool

I think I can go out on a limb here and say that people will be interested

Sounds fantastic man!

[breadfan]

I like the enthusiasm. I'm on board to help out in any way I can, which includes casting or partiticipating

The only thing is though, I think there's a bit of direction lacking. Maybe this is by design, with your focus on opening it to community efforts. That's commendable, but you also need to know that there's a point where you'll need to put your foot down and make an executive decision - there are lots of different types of tournaments and you'll get a variety of suggestions that are all good. Not everyone can be pleased

I think a good place to start would be identifying the basics of the tournament - who it's for, and what will set it apart from others (like the community open that happens every week).

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[LoRDo]

Originally Posted by breadfan

but you also need to know that there's a point where you'll need to put your foot down and make an executive decision - there are lots of different types of tournaments and you'll get a variety of suggestions that are all good. Not everyone can be pleased

Thanks for the feedback!
I am definitely aware that there will require an executive decision. Whilst I will be opening this largely to the community to help run / promote / et cetera, it will still be a tourny I am putting my name to so I will be pushing it onwards and ensuring its success as much I can!

[crAzerk]

I agree with breadfan, in that you need to have a stronger opinion about what this tournament's goal is. Something like 'whether we should invite foreigners' will NEVER be resolved entirely, and it's best if you take a hard stance on this. Both has it's pros and cons, and countless threads have gone arguing about this with no real resolution

Things you need to think of:
SEA/non-SEA?
Purpose of tournament? Promote SEA? Promote SC2? Community bonding?
Player Cap? (the more you have, the harder it is to manage)

My suggestion is to actually run a smaller tournament (in terms of prize pool + players), get the feel of things, then try something big like this.

[crAzerk]

With an amount like $500, you can probably break it into a series of tournaments to have more hype (and fun)
Each tournament 64player single elim:

Tourney 1: prize pool $50
2: $50
3: $100
4: $100
5: $200 +whatever sponsored prizes

So the first 4 leads up to the grand 5th one- perhaps the Top4 of
1st 4 tournaments get seeded into the 5th one Ro32, so for the 5th tourney you can either make it more exclusive (e.g. masters and above)

Just a suggestion!

(sorry for double post, was afraid OP would reply before I posted this and hence miss my edit)

[LoRDo]

Thanks for the suggestions
Keep them coming.

@Crazerk - would people truly be interested in a $50 prize pool tourney? Seems quite.... lacklustre?

[Frogmite]

500$ is a lot, you could help sponsor the SEA Clan League season 3

The season 2 is already running, you can check the thread there: http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?t=3590

[x5.Revenant]

I wish I could rep you over and over and over again, but the system wouldn't allow me to. :[

[iMSystem]

Originally Posted by Frogmite

500$ is a lot, you could help sponsor the SEA Clan League season 3

Pretty much this, perhaps instead of starting up a new series, why not just support an already running and established one, by buffing the prize pool or sponsoring the next season

[crAzerk]

would people truly be interested in a $50 prize pool tourney? Seems quite.... lacklustre?

The site's weekly CO only has a prize pool of $20, and GPDs only have prize pool of $10.
Not to mention it leads up to a grand finale of a $200+ more prize pool.

And yea you could also sponsor one of the existing tourneys, like SEASL that is happening right after the Clan Leagues.

[NDG.Stitch]

Originally Posted by Frogmite

500$ is a lot, you could help sponsor the SEA Clan League season 3

The season 2 is already running, you can check the thread there: http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?t=3590

Either that or maybe you can also invest in the SEASL (Instead of Team League, it will be an individual tournament. similar to the GSL)!

It's a great idea, and a great thumbs up to you!

[crAzerk]

I'm not sure if sponsorship for SEASL has been settled already though, have to check with nirvana

[breadfan]

Personally, I think this site has a lot of tournaments for the community as it is - I think we need more of the Dox Cup style invitationals.

Invite some international players to take on some of SEA's best. It's critically important to get the event promoted around the wider SC2 community (i.e. TeamLiquid) but if you manage it, you could do some huge good for the SEA scene's standing on the world stage.

In saying this, "just another Dox Cup" shouldn't necessarily be the goal - this is where some creativity could come into it, to make sure it stands out on its own merits.

If it was my $500, this is how I'd ideally be wanting to spend it.

[LoRDo]

Cool cool!

I suppose the main reason for the thread was to indicate a few things:
- I eSports and SC2
- I value the importance of the community in regards to eSports
- I wanted to get a vibe for what people would like to see more of / less of / how they'd like to have things run.

All this feedback is awesome and once I get a better idea of what people are after I can go to the drawing board and come up with something great.

Keep 'em coming.

[|Erasmus|]

I for one would love to see more of the kind of daily/weekly cups that help keep the EU/NA scenes so active on SEA. Community events are awesome, and sc2sea does an absolutely amazing job with them, but maybe it's time we started trying to step it up with eSports being more professional in SEA.

I hope I don't step on any toes with this when I say that some more competition to the events specifically run through sc2sea is going to be in a way beneficial to the goals of pushing eSports further (I just hope the scene is at the point where it can support more events when I say that).

Some kind of regular tour for SEA with a small, but relevant prize to keep the top players coming back would be awesome.

[LoRDo]

Ideally, I would love to run a daily or weekly cup.

Here are things which stand in my way:
- I would have to forfeit my job which, for obvious reasons, can't do
- I'm not sure that there are enough players available to facilitate or justify running this?

I suppose it is possible I could run it after work - like 6pm onwards but I would definitely need an awesome crew behind me!

Something I would love to see would be like a weekly league where points are racked up then progresses to a final tournament or something. does this exist already?

[crAzerk]

I don't think a daily cup is feasible, a weekly cup is possible, but obviously will take quite a commitment for you.
6PM AEDT? Do take note of the other time zones on this site, the timing of your tournament should try to cater to everyone. Something like 9PM AEDT has been the norm around here.

Something I would love to see would be like a weekly league where points are racked up then progresses to a final tournament or something. does this exist already?

That was kind of the idea I had for SEACoL when I ran it last time, which had a season format where you play 2-3 games every week, round robin with the entire table, and the top X players qualify for the playoffs.
Link to SEACoL thread

I don't know what the 2nd season of SEACoL (or SEASL)'s format will be like, but if I had any say in it I would want SEACoL S2 to be something like that again (I may not be able to run it again, due to school)

I must say the old format (my format) has many inherent issues, such as dropouts and reliance on player initiative - you may want to make it something like a Ro32 single elim tournament every week or something, with a table that collates such results. However, having weekly tournaments would also mean players themselves have to commit more (i.e. 2-3 hours a week) instead of playing just 1-2 games in a league-based one.

[LoRDo]

Didn't see your reply!

Thanks for the info - I did forget the timezones - you're quite right, 9pm would be much more suitable.

Yes, I can definitely see the dangers involved in running a league which requires the players to actively seek out their own games etc.

[LoRDo]

Thanks for all the replies people! I've got some things to think about how I want to attack it. Going to talk with some people and come up with a good solution! Peace and love