[Dox]

Please take this constructively... If you're going to use these movies as a marketing exercise to lure twitter subscribers, put some effort into your production. That took all of 5 minutes to make? 25 minutes of shaky, unedited clips with poor audio and a few songs overlaid is really hard to tolerate.

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[TADivinity]

Originally Posted by Dox

Please take this constructively... If you're going to use these movies as a marketing exercise to lure twitter subscribers, put some effort into your production. That took all of 5 minutes to make? 25 minutes of shaky, unedited clips with poor audio and a few songs overlaid is really hard to tolerate.

My 2 cents: I honestly thought it was fine. He was purposely mucking around with the camera at some stages too. If it wasnt for this video i wouldn't have had any idea of what ACL was like besides the stream

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[nirvAnA]

nice to see system and chadmann repping us haha!!

agree that less camera shaking next time.. probably need a tripod or something but it was an awesome effort as you only decided on doing videos at the last minute, and now everyone who did not have a chance to go to ACL can at least have an idea of what it was like behind the scenes. thanks!

looking forward to part 2!

[Jeran]

I don't understand the positive responses to this video. It was completely rubbish. Iaguz & Mafia were clearly uncomfortable with Benji's forcing himself upon them with stupid questions. Half of what was said couldn't even be heard properly due to the poor quality audio. In response to Divinity, what I think Dox was trying to say was not that the video shouldn't have been made just that it should have been better. A lot better. But for MY 2 cents, I think it would have been better if there was no video made rather than this video. It does nothing in favour of the event whatsoever. It does not truly represent what actually happened. I seriously hope people don't see it and think, "Oh, so that's what the event was like." Because it wasn't. I was there. Benji did it absolutely no justice. Like I said, better to have done no video than THAT video.

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	Benji:	...
	Loach:	Did you get mad at being knocked out 1st round Mr. Nameless?
	nGenLight:	grow up
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	ToR.Arnor:	1st you steal the xG tag then you try and knock down an awesome production by one of its members!
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	deL:	better to have no vid... GO AND **** YOURSELF

[TAriiChard]

Originally Posted by xGKingJeran

I don't understand the positive responses to this video. It was completely rubbish. Iaguz & Mafia were clearly uncomfortable with Benji's forcing himself upon them with stupid questions. Half of what was said couldn't even be heard properly due to the poor quality audio. In response to Divinity, what I think Dox was trying to say was not that the video shouldn't have been made just that it should have been better. A lot better. But for MY 2 cents, I think it would have been better if there was no video made rather than this video. It does nothing in favour of the event whatsoever. It does not truly represent what actually happened. I seriously hope people don't see it and think, "Oh, so that's what the event was like." Because it wasn't. I was there. Benji did it absolutely no justice. Like I said, better to have done no video than THAT video.

What do you mean? I heard everything even if the quality of the audio was bad and sure it wasn't the best video out there but at least there was content. Did you seriously not enjoy the video? I enjoyed every second of it. It showed what the players and my friends were up to during the event which was very entertaining. Thus my positive rep.

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	TADivinity:	Exactly

[Nemo]

Originally Posted by xGKingJeran

I don't understand the positive responses to this video. It was completely rubbish. Iaguz & Mafia were clearly uncomfortable with Benji's forcing himself upon them with stupid questions. Half of what was said couldn't even be heard properly due to the poor quality audio. In response to Divinity, what I think Dox was trying to say was not that the video shouldn't have been made just that it should have been better. A lot better. But for MY 2 cents, I think it would have been better if there was no video made rather than this video. It does nothing in favour of the event whatsoever. It does not truly represent what actually happened. I seriously hope people don't see it and think, "Oh, so that's what the event was like." Because it wasn't. I was there. Benji did it absolutely no justice. Like I said, better to have done no video than THAT video.

Remind me to never be in a same team as yours.

You're completely wrong, we see from those images how great it must have been, especially for those like me that have seen the streams of the main stage. Now my son can recognize Mafia, "eye-a-guz", Moonglade, Maynarde, Chadmann.

Btw Chad, my 12 yo son asks me to tell you that zealots are not very strong vs Roaches. Wp for being there and trying to triumph against all odds. That was legend ! In Chad we trust.

I'm always quite angry when people who actually works and dedicates to others are trashed by those who just sit and watch. If you want the work improved, say things in positive manner, respectful and never forget to acknowledge what have been done already. If not you will not be heard, you will only make people angry and disappointed.

Benji, thanks for being an active witness of this great event and sharing it. Oh, and next time, lazy boy, hire a professional cameraman, I'm sure you will find the money, it's so easy. :-/ That was good to make iaguz and Mafia talk. It's an ingrate job to do but the result is we ... hear them talk for once, that's great.

[Benji]

Originally Posted by Dox

Please take this constructively... If you're going to use these movies as a marketing exercise to lure twitter subscribers, put some effort into your production. That took all of 5 minutes to make? 25 minutes of shaky, unedited clips with poor audio and a few songs overlaid is really hard to tolerate.

Noted, I wanted to make a more fun video and leaving in the less scripted parts was a way to achieve that. The response so far is more positive than negative so I will keep this kind of theme in all 4 videos.

agree that less camera shaking next time.. probably need a tripod or something but it was an awesome effort as you only decided on doing videos at the last minute

My tripod is too large to take interstate Did the best with what I had

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Nemo:

That was great. Go on on the good job.

[inFeZa]

Originally Posted by xGKingBenji

My tripod is too large to take interstate Did the best with what I had
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New cameras come with anti shake technology which is quite handy, mine has it I'll upload my video soon, just a quick preview kinda vid. Also a chad v pinder vid that i filmed from my phone which will go up unedited :P.

[Benji]

Originally Posted by SQLTt.inFeZa

New cameras come with anti shake technology which is quite handy, mine has it I'll upload my video soon, just a quick preview kinda vid. Also a chad v pinder vid that i filmed from my phone which will go up unedited :P.

If I get a new camera, it'll be something I keep an eye out for, I don't exactly have tons of money sitting around tho :P

[Fenner]

Originally Posted by xGKingBenji

If I get a new camera, it'll be something I keep an eye out for, I don't exactly have tons of money sitting around tho :P

I have an extremely solid tripod that would help with this if you want me to drag it along to future events for you to use.

[Benji]

Originally Posted by fenner

I have an extremely solid tripod that would help with this if you want me to drag it along to future events for you to use.

SGL and Syd ACL should be fine as i live here, i'll let you know if theres one coming up that I can't get my tripod to, cheers.

[Dox]

Originally Posted by xGKingBenji

Noted, I wanted to make a more fun video and leaving in the less scripted parts was a way to achieve that. The response so far is more positive than negative so I will keep this kind of theme in all 4 videos.

Okay, now that I'm finally back home in Melbourne, I feel the need to elaborate on my previous post. What I meant is this:

I'm all for people making video blogs of the event! That's awesome. I personally didn't find this one enjoyable, but that's just me.

I don't appreciate people using our event as an exercise in self-promotion though. Okay, I can let the CH/Kingston logos slide 'cos it's your production/Youtube channel and all that. But when you post the video on the front page news of a large community site and demand that people follow you on twitter if they want to see more... it's just kind of tragic, y'know? I mean - you already have your twitter in your signature. You could have simply added a "For more videos, check out my Twitter/YouTube/Facebook" at the end of the movie and it would have been totally respectable.

As far as editing goes, a bit of cropping and planning would definitely go a long way. (I loved the road trip video!) It literally feels like you've just dragged a bunch of footage into Windows Movie Maker and exported a render. I mean, there were literally gaps of green screen between some scenes! Review your footage, plan what you intend to do with it, and pick out the good stuff. You can turn 12 hours of mediocre footage into 10 minutes of good quality video with the right amount of patience and production - and people will appreciate it a lot more. I mean, there was literally a scene of you attempting to zoom in on the commentators and talking about how your hands were too shaky. There is no value in stuff like that!

I truly do look forward to seeing part 2, and I hope it follows in the footsteps of inFeZa's humble video.

I forgot to add:

Originally Posted by xGKingBenji

I'll be splitting the video into 4 parts (I hope it fits into 4, could be 5) and will release them as a few goals are met .

I suspect you plan on using the additional videos to grow your YouTube/FaceBook/Twitter/Stream subscribers. All I can ask is that you please do this for the community, not your own personal gain. If people like the content you have to offer, they'll naturally subscribe. Don't force yourself upon the community.

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