[Peleus]

Originally Posted by FaDeSorathez

P.S. To Peleus, you say that not posting on sc2sea doesn't not make you a part of the community, which I agree with, but you must see that participating in tournaments arranged by sc2sea is a little iffy if they don't know you exist, or who you are.

I can understand where you're coming from, but I believe in equality for all players, perhaps that is even a fault of mine.

I can guarantee you that many of the "Korean Pros" have played more ladder games than some of the low tiered entrants, who also do not post on sc2sea and almost definitely there are people playing "that we don't know exist or who they are". I'm not going to rehash arguments because it will make it go in circles but I believe rules should be applied to everyone, no matter if it's Nestea or a bronze league player, and I think they should be consistent, open, objective and transparent.

The rules could very well lead to the exclusion of "Korean Pros", and I don't even have a problem with that (although certain discussions are being had in the how to grow esports thread) as long as the eligibility is the same for everyone.

The obvious counter argument is that any lower tier is "just for fun" and doesn't have prizes associated with it. I personally see prizes as irrelevant, I want to compete for the sake of competing, I think the only thing that should change between Tier 1 and Tier 99 is the skill levels, not the competitiveness or genuinity of the competition.

Once more that may simply me seeing everything as equal to an extreme extent, but I'm afraid thats my opinion

[AxS.Sorathez]

Originally Posted by PeleusSPR

I can understand where you're coming from, but I believe in equality for all players, perhaps that is even a fault of mine.

I can guarantee you that many of the "Korean Pros" have played more ladder games than some of the low tiered entrants, who also do not post on sc2sea and almost definitely there are people playing "that we don't know exist or who they are". I'm not going to rehash arguments because it will make it go in circles but I believe rules should be applied to everyone, no matter if it's Nestea or a bronze league player, and I think they should be consistent, open, objective and transparent.

The rules could very well lead to the exclusion of "Korean Pros", and I don't even have a problem with that (although certain discussions are being had in the how to grow esports thread) as long as the eligibility is the same for everyone.

The obvious counter argument is that any lower tier is "just for fun" and doesn't have prizes associated with it. I personally see prizes as irrelevant, I want to compete for the sake of competing, I think the only thing that should change between Tier 1 and Tier 99 is the skill levels, not the competitiveness or genuinity of the competition.

Once more that may simply me seeing everything as equal to an extreme extent, but I'm afraid thats my opinion

I share your beliefin equality (and yes the same rules should be applied to tier 1 as for tier 2-4 players and I believe they are, if not, shame on you nirvana :P), but since this is a SEACL, it should be restricted to SEA players. Understandable no? Now the only problem is defining exactly what a SEA player is. The broadest definition is, of course, "a player who plays (at ALL) on the SEA server, or is located in the region intended for the SEA server" and a somewhat more strict definition is "a player who is located in the SEA area." The second of those two is the one I see as the definition that should be used, but then, the players who are members of SEA clans, or are very active in the community, but are not located in SEA, would feel shafted, which is not something we want and it doesn't help the community in any way.

As such as compromise has to be made, where there privilege of attending the tournament is extended to players outside the SEA area, but are active in the community and are accepted as a SEA player as such (I would say they would also have to played at least A game on SEA prior to the announcement of the tournament), and it is difficult to be considered active in the community, if the largest community website for the region doesn't know who you are (and personally I don't consider being active only within your own clan makes you "active in the SEA community", it only makes you active in your clan).
EDIT: Perhaps I should rephrase that, I meant that being active within a SEA-based clan does not necessitate being active in the community, for there is much more to the community than just the one clan, although if the clan is composed of a large enough number of SEA players it does allow for more SEA people to know who you are and as such you could be considered an active member in the community.
As xpaperclip said, there are ways of being involved in the community without posting on sc2sea.com, PRACBUD and the battle.net forums are examples of this. Just being well known by people on ladder would also be considered being "involved", but like I said, since the organisers of the tournament are the sc2sea admins, it can't hurt for them to be aware of your existence.