[dippa]

Originally Posted by Volition

Interesting rhetoric - we should have at least a 12 month ban for a guy that has made a few posts then admitted that he was in the wrong? you are overestimating the pull of the sc2sea community. to be banned from this community is not to have your account deleted from the game etc.

Evets has said he has done the wrong thing, the punishment has been handed down from the people in control, yet the complaints come. why.

you know that from this point on, every single game that Evets plays in the future is going to be reviewed suspiciously - even when he makes good judgement calls he is going to be called a hacker.

I think we should be focusing our efforts on the amazing things that sc2sea has to offer instead of beating this deadhorse into submission. once again, why.

Volition

I understand SC2SEA can't prevent people from playing the game, but they can make a stance and set the standards for being a member of the community.

Just because he will come under scrutiny in the future is not in any way recompense for wasting people's time and enjoyment with hacks. If I offered you the opportunity to play a game against someone who was hacking or someone who wasn't, what would you choose? The game ceases to be enjoyable when your opponents are tracking your every move.

Also, just because punishment has been doled out and an apology has been provided - which was not in any way, shape or form forthcoming until his lies were well and truly exposed - doesn't mean further discussion on the topic is unwarranted.

Having a strong community is part of the wonderful things SC2SEA can offer, and it's everyone's job to safeguard that. This is the perfect opportunity for the community to lay down a precedent for the future; if you consider that a "complaint", then I can do nothing more but disagree with your sentiments in the strongest possible terms.

[Volition]

Originally Posted by dippa

I understand SC2SEA can't prevent people from playing the game, but they can make a stance and set the standards for being a member of the community.

Just because he will come under scrutiny in the future is not in any way recompense for wasting people's time and enjoyment with hacks. If I offered you the opportunity to play a game against someone who was hacking or someone who wasn't, what would you choose? The game ceases to be enjoyable when your opponents are tracking your every move.

Also, just because punishment has been doled out and an apology has been provided - which was not in any way, shape or form forthcoming until his lies were well and truly exposed - doesn't mean further discussion on the topic is unwarranted.

Having a strong community is part of the wonderful things SC2SEA can offer, and it's everyone's job to safeguard that. This is the perfect opportunity for the community to lay down a precedent for the future; if you consider that a "complaint", then I can do nothing more but disagree with your sentiments in the strongest possible terms.

wasting people's time and enjoyment? If that is literally all that is wasted, then i fail to see how we can disagree in the strongest possible terms.

At the end of the day, this is a game and we play it for enjoyment, as an enjoyable way of spending our time. To waste that is to waste our enjoyment and time - really not that precious commodities in the grand scheme of things.

it truly feels like a storm in a teacup - if someone was hacking and beat me, well good for them i suppose. What further harm has it REALLY caused you?

I am not defending hacking, or evets, but i feel that the "wrecking the game 6-12 month ban" and "should go to hell" moniker has been thrown out too much in this thread. It is time we all got back to doing something beneficial for the the community and focusing on the good stuff. Nirvana has handed out the punishment, to continue to complain is to be opposed to the decision - and at the end of the day if you dont like it you do not need to be a part of the community if you find this decision does not "safeguard" the commuinity in the appropriate manner.

volition

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	Brultze:
	nirvAnA:	I think he does that cause he used to it being a lawyer and all haha
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