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Unread Thu, 29th-Dec-2011, 6:48 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: pRoTimber.748  Race: Location: Malaysia  Total Posts Made: 147 # 1
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think of "minimap" hack/ sensor tower hack then u will see

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thanks for uploading replays timber!
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Unread Thu, 29th-Dec-2011, 9:54 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: TtPiG.473  Race: Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,221 # 2
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think of "minimap" hack/ sensor tower hack then u will see
I see some suspect things going on. I also see both of you playing pretty badly.

If you would chill and point out the points in the rep you think are suspect I would love to reply to them and try to convince you otherwise. Timber I've played you alot on ladder and you are the cheesiest terran I know. I don't mean that as an insult but I mean that you all-in constantly. Play very low-econ and love drops and elevators. As such you are very predictable and someone preparing for that sort of play is not out off the question.

His low muta count being placed in the main makes perfect sense, as his army at the nat is covering his 3rd. What doesn't make sense is half his army running through watchtower vision soon after you leave the tower. But you know what, if you watch all your saved replays trying to look for maphackers you can always find some "evidence" that it exists. Looking at this replay he could have done so many things so much better especially if he was maphacking that I really don't see why it would enrage you that his movements in one situation are suspect.

I've never had trouble beating evets and he's such a nice guy that I find 2 replays posted by a player who won (muse) and a player who should have won (timber) to be unconvincing. I've seen evets play amazing games mechanically and decision-making wise. And the evidence you provided shows some pretty sub-par play with 1-2 strangely intuitive decisions. I really feel he would have dominated 10 times as hard if he was actually hacking.

This is just my opinion and i am extremely biased as evets is a friend and ex-student. But I do feel that the evidence you provided of you ragequitting after playing badly, and then providing mostly bad points (muse) and zero points other then something about map awareness (timber) I think you are both reacting with your hearts and not your heads.
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Unread Thu, 29th-Dec-2011, 10:14 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: EU.Nemo #368  Race: Location: Paris, France  Total Posts Made: 752 # 3
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This is just my opinion and i am extremely biased as evets is a friend and ex-student. But I do feel that the evidence you provided of you ragequitting after playing badly, and then providing mostly bad points (muse) and zero points other then something about map awareness (timber) I think you are both reacting with your hearts and not your heads.
PiG, you're super very stronger than so many of us and can see so many things we can't (I think it, really). But please, please, don't jump on conclusions before giving time to time, especially since you admit you're extremely biased. Since it's your student and friend, that's not your call to judge it. Let neutral people have their analysis about it. If you don't it will get everyone nervous very quick.

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Unread Thu, 29th-Dec-2011, 6:41 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: pRoTimber.748  Race: Location: Malaysia  Total Posts Made: 147 # 4
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I see some suspect things going on. I also see both of you playing pretty badly.

If you would chill and point out the points in the rep you think are suspect I would love to reply to them and try to convince you otherwise. Timber I've played you alot on ladder and you are the cheesiest terran I know. I don't mean that as an insult but I mean that you all-in constantly. Play very low-econ and love drops and elevators. As such you are very predictable and someone preparing for that sort of play is not out off the question.

His low muta count being placed in the main makes perfect sense, as his army at the nat is covering his 3rd. What doesn't make sense is half his army running through watchtower vision soon after you leave the tower. But you know what, if you watch all your saved replays trying to look for maphackers you can always find some "evidence" that it exists. Looking at this replay he could have done so many things so much better especially if he was maphacking that I really don't see why it would enrage you that his movements in one situation are suspect.

I've never had trouble beating evets and he's such a nice guy that I find 2 replays posted by a player who won (muse) and a player who should have won (timber) to be unconvincing. I've seen evets play amazing games mechanically and decision-making wise. And the evidence you provided shows some pretty sub-par play with 1-2 strangely intuitive decisions. I really feel he would have dominated 10 times as hard if he was actually hacking.

This is just my opinion and i am extremely biased as evets is a friend and ex-student. But I do feel that the evidence you provided of you ragequitting after playing badly, and then providing mostly bad points (muse) and zero points other then something about map awareness (timber) I think you are both reacting with your hearts and not your heads.
Evets: forget about it, try send the program to blizzard so that they could fix it in the next patch or something.

Pig: if u know me from a year ago u'll know i say glhf/gg everygame until i got bmed to the ground by certain ppl that i stopped doing it unless my opponent say it to me 1st.

It was only a few days ago when muse told me that evets is a hacker, i know whats coming and expecting it already thats why i dont even bother to reply him in the 1st place, after my doomdrop got caught like that i've already lost the mood to play on. If muse haven't told me i wouldnt even pay attention to it as it would be one of my normal losses.

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Excellent idea to send the hack to Blizzard. You're wise to stay calm.
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Chill dude, you're doing well on ladder
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Unread Thu, 29th-Dec-2011, 6:46 PM BnetId: FaDeBadger.403  Race: Clan: FaDe  Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 531 # 5
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Pig: if u know me from a year ago u'll know i say glhf/gg everygame until i got bmed to the ground by certain ppl that i stopped doing it unless my opponent say it to me 1st.
I don't think PiG was saying you were BM. he said that you all-in and cheese a lot. Contrary to what most people say, cheese is not BM.
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