[syfChase]

Hi, I'm Chase, the player in the replay Krycek posted. I just want to add some evidence, if you cannot be bothered going through the whole replay.
1: By 1:30 he has viewed my base through the Fog Of War 3 Times for no apparent reason
2: At 3:39 He scolls up to view the Proxy Hatchery that was placed only 20 seconds before. He continues to look at it for a total of 5 times until 4:20. He starts to build gateways within his main base and saves chronoboost to deal with it.
3: This should confirm any doubts you have about if he is hacking. at 4:20 he selects about ¾ of his probes and starts to move them up to attack the hatchery [He has not even scouted that it was there with a probe yet]. Before the probes get close enough to sight the Hatch he pulls them back, sending only one to actually scout it before pulling the rest of his probes.
4:Various times looking at my main to see what I have, plus views my natural after I sent my drone down to expand.
5:Blind Counters my Muta play with double stargate, getting Pheonix over Voidrays. (Keep in mind he has not scouted since the initial probe scout) Positions forces perfectly to deal with the harass
6:15:15 Reacts to a small runby attack by looking through the Fog of War.
7:Looks at my third through Fog of War when it has not been scouted and checks my Army composition

There may be some other little things, but these are the ones I noticed. It was a ladder game too, I feel for others that may have fallen for these cheap tricks
Edit: I did not know he was actually hacking at the time. I thought he just had an Observer on me, but scouting my base with an Overseer brought up nothing. He did not even have a Robotics Facility. If Krycek did not tell this to me it may have just slid under the radar. Props to him

[Nemo]

Frogmite. Best to make him admit and apologize now. That won't change any sanction because he's more that cornered already, but it would be better so he has a better chance to redeem himself one day.

[crAzerk]

What are the odds, I just faced him on ladder! Lolol didn't even realize it until he typed 'GG' at the end. I beat him in a TvP haha.

I shall just watch the replay again and see if I spot anything suspicious, didn't notice any blatant maphack while I was playing.

3:12 - Glances into the fog without any Probe scout at my exact location, on a 4 player map.

4:15 -makes a good show of using his Probe to scout my FE too, deliberately clicking towards my building instead of running up my ramp.

4:57, 5:22 - Glances into fog at my base

5:00~ - makes a show of moving his Stalker up my ramp and immediately pulling it back down after a few rounds of Bunker fire.

6:08, 6.53 - glances at my base in fog

7:47 - glances into fog , looking at my pack of marauders moving out of my base

9:07 - looks into fog at my impending push

10:30 - gets his Colussus stuck between buildings like a pro

11:08 - glances into fog,
11:40 - builds a cannon at key points to stop drops the second I load up my 2 Medivacs for a drop
12:20 - warps in 3 stalkers at where my Medivacs were headed
12:40 - loses 9 workers because he can't multitask and though his maphack stopped one drop the other drop killed 9 workers

13:09, 15:15 - glances into fog

16:00 reacts uber slowly to a drop to his 3rd and almost loses his nexus at 73 HP !

17:25 - diversion drop at his natural pulls his whole army there, and my real drop hits his 3rd to snipe the nexus

18:00 - glances at fog

(We had a big clash in the middle of the map somewhere here, his army positioning was pretty crap so I won, and continued to rally forward for the win. Terran is really strong.)

22:48 - I MULE-drop him after he doesn't leave even though being half my supply.


22:50 - He GGs and leaves

Replay here

Conclusion:
Pretty obvious maphacking, with the constant looking into Fog. He even tries to 'sell' it that he's not maphacking with his obligatory probe scout and stalker poke.
No observer produced at all, no surprise since he had maphack.
Lesson learnt? How to beat a maphacker - Just play better than him ^^ Oh, and using helps too


~as said before, Craftking added to 'Confirmed Maphacker' list in the OP

Quick Comments

	krycek:	like a pro gj man
	nirvAnA:
	TCPLemminks:	Thanks for confirming this

[ChaynesOre]

Originally Posted by crAzerk

10:30 - gets his Colussus stuck between buildings like a pro

lol ^^

Just curious.. was he under investigation before I posted or nah?

[Nemo]

Originally Posted by chaynesore

lol ^^

Just curious.. was he under investigation before I posted or nah?

I think you were the first to expose him. Big props to you.

[Frogmite]

Ok for the information.

There are two different players:

CraftKing - map hacker
CraftKings - the guy in our roster

We are investigating the possibility that those two guys are the same as we've seen Craftking in our in-game clan channel a bit earlier in the evening.

[ChaynesOre]

Originally Posted by Frogmite

Ok for the information.

There are two different players:

CraftKing - map hacker
CraftKings - the guy in our roster

We are investigating the possibility that those two guys are the same as we've seen Craftking in our in-game clan channel a bit earlier in the evening.

For what it's worth (though I assume not much) I chatted with him tonight and got him to confirm that he is indeed the same person, having two accounts, and a part of your clan, and another (I forget which, but if that info is useful, you know).. I copied the ch at but blizzard truncated teh top half of it but I can link the rest of it if you guys like. It's the same guy.

[Rage]

the guy SlayerSBoxeR has not played since 8th January - perhaps he has finally been banned?

[Flamga]

Originally Posted by Rage

the guy SlayerSBoxeR has not played since 8th January - perhaps he has finally been banned?

What did he do? I have played him a few times on ladder but he sucked hard... Although he also called my build without ever scouting it, and stating the build in chat to me :/

[Rage]

Originally Posted by Flamga

What did he do? I have played him a few times on ladder but he sucked hard... Although he also called my build without ever scouting it, and stating the build in chat to me :/

Listed in OP. Confirmed maphacker + auto-inject mod.

[RicocheT]

Originally Posted by Flamga

What did he do? I have played him a few times on ladder but he sucked hard... Although he also called my build without ever scouting it, and stating the build in chat to me :/

I don't want to sound harsh or whatever, but at least read the thread before replying. Saying 'what did he do?' when it's all listed above you...kind of stupid isn't it?

Quick Comments

	ROOTPetraeus:	You don't want to sound harsh but your calling him stupid...
	FaDeBadger:
	Rage:	last comment doesn't really add anything to your point and is a bit unnecessary

[CHoBo(kice)]

Nah SlayerSBoxer still around, I vsed him took 1 off him

[Scope_IV]

Hey guys, I was playing a game on ladder and I came across this zerg. Throughout the game there was some pretty sus things he did i will outline them all below with timings for the replay. I'm not sure what to do about this but i feel it was pretty sus and i would like your opinion on it

http://drop.sc/94953

1) He never scouts, doesn't spread overlords out and never sends lings or anything to get information.
2) I did a FFE into double stargate phoenix, he went straight to hydra off 3 base- very risky but not super sus or anything but with the huge amount of not scouting I very well could have been doing a 7 gate timing push and won.
3) At the time 23:33 he looks straight at my nexus where he has no vision off, also where the mothership is buildling
4) he then preceeds to go up to the top left hand corner and waits right until the mothership is about to pop to fly in.
5) the whole time he had control of his corruptors starring at them like he was waiting for the mothership to come out. At the time of 24:12 through to 24:27 where he snipes the mothership.

Thanks

Looking forward to your feedback

Scope

[FvRphoneheha]

OK, I've looked at the fiction replay.

1) Never scouting is bad, but doesn't necessarily mean hacking. He does do the normal overlord to the right. Not really suspicious.
2) As you say, weird strats (Hydra off 3 base) are suspicious, but that's not enough reason to suggest hacking. Not really suspicious.
3) Yep, happens to be the nexus which you were building the mothership from. However, he could plausibly be looking at your base to remind himself what tech you have. Done it myself before. Not really suspicious.
4) Ok, gets a bit weird here. Still, plausible that he could be planning to fly through, see if any colossi/motherships are sitting idle.
5) Ok, THIS IS SUSPICIOUS. He spends like, a good 5 seconds waiting, not moving the screen, until the mothership pops. THIS IS SUSPICIOUS.

I'd wait for more opinions, but based PURELY on point 5, I'd say he's hacking. Doesn't look like he got lucky, it looks like he has production tab hack and WAITED till the mothership popped, and kept camera on corrupters so as not to miss the timing...

My opinion: Hacker

Edit: Oh wow you won? Congrats! Though his cringe-worthy handling of the warp prism harass and poor unit composition choices almost make me wonder if he wasn't hacking... Or maybe he was just that bad/trying to hide his villainy >.<

[TAEdarus]

1. Got hydras up before much else. Quite odd.
2. Looking at the Nexus, while it could have been "checking tech", was odd.
3. Watching the ruptors in a random location near a Nexus he should have thought was dead then waltzing in AS the mothership popped and killing it... Decisive for me.

Verdict: Maphax

[ROOT`iaguz]

Get more replays. You're going to need more then just one.

[Nemo]

Originally Posted by xGKingiaguz

Get more replays. You're going to need more then just one.

Not compulsory. If one replay is incriminating enough, the guy might be placed on the black list just with that. Btw, what are your own conclusions about the replay ?

[iMSystem]

Originally Posted by Nemo

Not compulsory. If one replay is incriminating enough, the guy might be placed on the black list just with that. Btw, what are your own conclusions about the replay ?

Having more replays proving this stuff eliminates coincidence and flukes.

Sure there might be some blatant stuff, but unless its 200% clear, then you will need more replays

That's just how it is

[Scope_IV]

Well, from being in the match i wasn't too concerned about anything until he sniped my mothership. When he flew in right when it popped alarm bells rang. He made a lot of mistakes and some things that i would have thought somebody hacking would do like intercept the warp prism and such he didn't do. From looking over the replay many times and showing my friends and asking for their input i feel that he was indeed hacking.

[Scope_IV]

Well, I would love to have more replays but I have only played him once :S I was hoping that maybe other people had played him but that is cool. I understand that with accusations must come large amounts of evidence.