[Fourby]

Originally Posted by MrToast

Rossi also brought up chobos 'screen lock' when in the SAME replay Rossi's camera was shown 'screen locking' at certain times in the replay. Which also makes it far far from conclusive evidence unless you want to ban Rossi also.

I was gonna stay out of this, but this was just really stupid. So i thought i would just say that of course it still screen locks when u watch the replay, That IS the whole point. Its in >SC2GEARS< that you find the inconsistencies in the replay and what he was actually hiding.

[Peleus]

Originally Posted by cRFourby

I was gonna stay out of this, but this was just really stupid. So i thought i would just say that of course it still screen locks when u watch the replay, That IS the whole point. Its in >SC2GEARS< that you find the inconsistencies in the replay and what he was actually hiding.

To be fair that was proven incorrect as the sc2gears time didn't correlate with the replay time, hence the inconsistencies.

I'd like to say three points off that though

1. It doesn't negate the massive amount of evidence that has been brought up.

2. If there is a mistake in the evidence it's found and corrected.

3. People are arguing over specific points. Let's say the vikings thing turned about to be coincidence which some people believe it is and are going 12 rounds over. Ok, but that doesn't explain the pathing changes, the glances at bases, the turn around on shak, the history of confirmed hacking as Yamama (is this confirmed he is that id??) so many 10's of other things that have been brought up. You're not seeing the tree because some people are too busy fighting over what shade of green the leaves are.

[CHoBo(kice)]

http://drop.sc/185830

Is another tvz where I go into 3cc after 2 rax pressure, standard and this game was played before mastercup. the follow up is very similar to the accused game.

[cruxis]

I think the best way to settle this is a Bo61 Chobo vs Mafia.

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	Peleus:	No trying to be a dick, but we're talking about possibly banning someone from sc2sea, let's focus on it
	neKo:	Mate

[syfChadMann]

if YaMaMa = CHobo can people upload some YaMaMa replays?.. or is it already confirmed that he is a hacker?..

[CHoBo(kice)]

Originally Posted by cR.ChadMann

if YaMaMa = CHobo can people upload some YaMaMa replays?.. or is it already confirmed that he is a hacker?..

there is plenty already out there if you search replay sites >.> and there's nothing suspicious I guarantee you

[TAriiChard]

guys he is Yamama

http://app03.sc2ranks.com/sea/39803/YaMaMa/a/


notice the link says "Yamama" and it goes to AsGCHoBo

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	mGGDaedalus:	was yamama's hacking 100% confirmed?
	syfChadMann:	HARDY BOYS GOT THIS.
	MatiNO:
	inFeZa:
	mGMUSE:

[CHoBo(kice)]

There was one season which I used a different ID. i did give the yamama account to my brother at this stage. this was the one which I got R2 on before second free name change came out.

doubt he would hack on my account regardless, that would be just disrespectful... me giving him a free account and him risking me getting banned.

http://sc2ranks.com/sea/251441/AsGCHoBo

I reclaimmed several weeks after second free name change was released in s6

[Peleus]

Originally Posted by AsGCHoBo

There was one season which I used a different ID

http://sc2ranks.com/sea/251441/AsGCHoBo

What are you trying to say with this?

Also, can you confirm / deny you're YaMaMa?

Edit: I know many people believe he is, however he is suggesting it may have been his brother.

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	jayaiwhy:	he is
	syfChadMann:	no need - rich's link confirms he is..

[CHoBo(kice)]

Originally Posted by Peleus

What are you trying to say with this?

Also, can you confirm / deny you're YaMaMa?

Edit: I know many people believe he is, however he is suggesting it may have been his brother.

I confirm I am YaMaMa, but there was a period of time i.e. the season which I was playing under a different account which YaMaMa was not me. I was AsGCHoBo on the account link provided which was rank 2

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mGMUSE:

conveniently does not answer to 'are you yamama' for a few pages, and now a pathetic excuse when uncovered

[mGMUSE]

Originally Posted by AsGCHoBo

There was one season which I used a different ID. i did give the yamama account to my brother at this stage. this was the one which I got R2 on before second free name change came out.

doubt he would hack on my account regardless, that would be just disrespectful... me giving him a free account and him risking me getting banned.

http://sc2ranks.com/sea/251441/AsGCHoBo

I reclaimmed several weeks after second free name change was released in s6

1. Conveniently does not answer to 'are you yamama?' for a few pages, and now gives a pathetic excuse when uncovered.

2. 6k Games - Portrait hacking

Also many of his responses feel like how a hacker would reply.

I havent played sc2 in months(so my game knowledge might be limited) but watching a game of mafia vs chobo on that new map, i couldn't really point out any REALLY suspicious actions. However, he played way too risky(no scout) to be consistently beating mafia/targa/jazbas imo.

If his game sense is THAT GOOD, he should've pushed out with his 16 marines after mafia lost all his lings in the counterattack. Basic TvZ, force your opponent to make units, and at that point even a diamond league terran would make the decision to push...

Also it's natural for Chobo's friends, teammates to stand up for him, and the accusers to stand their ground firmly and keep finding evidence, just like what happened with fadeevets. I urge everyone to look at it with an unbiased opinion though.

just my 2c

[AsGNabi]

Originally Posted by mGMUSE

1. Conveniently does not answer to 'are you yamama?' for a few pages, and now gives a pathetic excuse when uncovered.

2. 6k Games - Portrait hacking

Also many of his responses feel like how a hacker would reply.

Also it's natural for Chobo's friends, teammates to stand up for him, and the accusers to stand their ground firmly and keep finding evidence, just like what happened with fadeevets. I urge everyone to look at it with an unbiased opinion though.

just my 2c

How is that a pathetic excuse? Perhaps ideally not the best or strongest 'excuse', but his reasons with his brother are their own. I don't understand how this is even relevant though.

In what method would a hacker reply? Sure he's vague, but that's literally the kind of responses he gives.

[TABiggun]

Yamama / chobo is on the sc2sea list of official coaches

http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php...ghlight=yamama

Quote:

Although not such a familiar name yet, kice s a resident of Perth, loves fast cars and is better known on the ladders as YaMaMa or AsGCHoBo. He recently took down Jazbas 6-0 and nirvana 4-0 on the ladders, and finished last season in the top 16 with a 70% winrate. An impressive player you are sure to hear more about in the future.

What is really special about him though is he started out as a TGM subscriber himself, coached by the legendary OxygeN . He quickly hit and the rest was history. He brings to the new coaching team a very unique perspective, having gone through the path of a student himself he will be able to help the students learn in the fastest possible way.

[syfChadMann]

Okay - so I'm confused about one thing.
http://app03.sc2ranks.com/sea/39803/AsGCHoBo/season/2

Thats 6k games in less than three months.
Season Two: 29 March 2011 - 26 July 2011 (Season two lock began on 5 July 2011).

about 50 games EVERY DAY.. now someone doesn't do that. That is impossible.. Unless you have steel wrists and no life, thats impossible.

So it suggests bot farming?.. using hack programs to farm games for you?.. I'm guessing to unlock some cool in game portraits.. right?

Apparently these Bot Farming programs come from the same sites as the game hacks.. If someone is willing to download bot farming software, they would be exposed to the hack software? - from there its only a short jump - 'I have all the portraits now, why don't I get #1 GM'...

Sure there is assumptions being made here - but it's more pieces to a pretty damning puzzle. Personally I think its clear cut. Unless you are willing to come to a live event and play at this skill level your a hacker in my eyes. There is too much evidence.

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	x5.Revenant:	Good find.
	mGMUSE:	this is getting too obvious
	Champi:	50 games a day is a lot for someone who only plays for casual fun eh

[CHoBo(kice)]

Originally Posted by cR.ChadMann

Okay - so I'm confused about one thing. That has been thrown around the TA Skype chat.
http://app03.sc2ranks.com/sea/39803/AsGCHoBo/season/2

Thats 6k games in less than three months.
Season Two: 29 March 2011 - 26 July 2011 (Season two lock began on 5 July 2011).

about 50 games EVERY DAY.. now someone doesn't do that. That is impossible.. Unless you have steel wrists and no life, thats impossible.

So it suggests bot farming?.. using hack programs to farm games for you?.. I'm guessing to unlock some cool in game portraits.. right?

Apparently these Bot Farming programs come from the same sites as the game hacks.. If someone is willing to download bot farming software, they would be exposed to the hack software? - from there its only a short jump - 'I have all the portraits now, why don't I get #1 GM'...

Sure there is assumptions being made here - but it's more pieces to a pretty damning puzzle. Personally I think its clear cut. Unless you are willing to come to a live event and play at this skill level your a hacker in my eyes. There is too much evidence.

That doesn't look accurate to me? 6k games in GM? is that even possible? sc2ranks glitch? I know season 6 and stuff shows earliers season... dunno

[syfChadMann]

Originally Posted by AsGCHoBo

That doesn't look accurate to me? 6k games in GM? is that even possible? sc2ranks glitch? I know season 6 and stuff shows earliers season... dunno

You have Dark Voices portrait.
no glitch.

[CHoBo(kice)]

It just doesn't make sense, I cant explain things that don't make sense.

I spent all afternoon replying all accusations, its really going nowhere but around in a circle. Some believe, some don't. I guarantee otherwise then others guarantee for.

Do you know how time consuming this is? I wasted an entire afternoon because of this crap.

I am officially finished with replying to shit talk.

gl hf sc2sea

PS: ty to all those who supported me and believe in finding the truth, I ensure to you that I was honest and did not hack in games accused off. Really appreciate for you guys put in the effort to analyse the games and had unbiased opinions.

to those who sent childish lowlife emails to me and the person who email bombed my email. GROW UP

[Peleus]

Originally Posted by AsGCHoBo

That doesn't look accurate to me? 6k games in GM? is that even possible? sc2ranks glitch? I know season 6 and stuff shows earliers season... dunno

No it's not a glitch, once you reach GM the only way out is through bonus pool accrual, no matter what your MMR. Are you saying definitively that you never played that many games, clearly you'd remember right?

[SanG]

Originally Posted by AsGCHoBo

That doesn't look accurate to me? 6k games in GM? is that even possible? sc2ranks glitch? I know season 6 and stuff shows earliers season... dunno

looks like portrait farming, it's not a evidence of hacking tho. Tonne of people do it legit, i know few people who i believe are not hackers and have farmed

[Sedz]

Originally Posted by cR.ChadMann

Okay - so I'm confused about one thing. That has been thrown around the TA Skype chat.
http://app03.sc2ranks.com/sea/39803/AsGCHoBo/season/2

Thats 6k games in less than three months.
Season Two: 29 March 2011 - 26 July 2011 (Season two lock began on 5 July 2011).

about 50 games EVERY DAY.. now someone doesn't do that. That is impossible.. Unless you have steel wrists and no life, thats impossible.

So it suggests bot farming?.. using hack programs to farm games for you?.. I'm guessing to unlock some cool in game portraits.. right?

Apparently these Bot Farming programs come from the same sites as the game hacks.. If someone is willing to download bot farming software, they would be exposed to the hack software? - from there its only a short jump - 'I have all the portraits now, why don't I get #1 GM'...

Sure there is assumptions being made here - but it's more pieces to a pretty damning puzzle. Personally I think its clear cut. Unless you are willing to come to a live event and play at this skill level your a hacker in my eyes. There is too much evidence.

Too much evidence? There is a bunch of baseless claims with absolutely no justification or logic then there's a really good claim by Mafia which also has counter arguments just as good.

Also, you're quoting things from a year ago, you cannot be seriously be using that as any kind of evidence for hacking, especially games played.

Also, this has escalated so ******* far, as soon as you get people spamming emails and interfering in personal life it just gets ******* ridiculous. I seriously hope something is being done about this.

EDIT: There's absolutely no reason for me to take this lightly when I am Clan Captain of AsG and I have to read a bunch of retarded stuff by bandwagoner's. Cmon dude, if this was your clan you'd be doing the same.

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	SanG:	chill mate
	syfChadMann:	it's not retarded big boy.
	Rage:	counter negative rep from stupid people. nothing he said was untrue.
	neKo:	Chiiiiiiiiill
	TABiggun:	They arnt bandwagoners, they are making analysis retard