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Unread Tue, 8th-Nov-2011, 8:49 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: nGenJazBas.131  Race: Location: Auckland  Total Posts Made: 422 # 1
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Can anyone(Korean) translate what YYJ wrote word for word into PlayXP site? I would like to but you can only write on the site if you have a Korean account(I don't think TW account works either.) or if you have active mobile phone in Korea that you check confirmation.
It seems that the thread about PPSL in PlayXP site is wrongly informed as many LoF clan people and NEXSickness himself are writing in that thread to defend AZK, saying that many of those such as Sickness taking YYJ's spot are just a rumour and they want the thread deleted immediately. I think that they should know what YYJ's thoughts and what he exprienced word for word.

I am very disgusted by Gus' action and really feel for Yoon. If I was him I could not have been able to take the trash from Gus with such a professionalism.

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Good idea! maybe someone from SPR can help?
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go SPR, save YOON!!!
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Yes! we are trying our best! @_@
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Unread Tue, 8th-Nov-2011, 9:12 PM Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 283 # 2
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Can anyone(Korean) translate what YYJ wrote word for word into PlayXP site? I would like to but you can only write on the site if you have a Korean account(I don't think TW account works either.) or if you have active mobile phone in Korea that you check confirmation.
It seems that the thread about PPSL in PlayXP site is wrongly informed as many LoF clan people and NEXSickness himself are writing in that thread to defend AZK, saying that many of those such as Sickness taking YYJ's spot are just a rumour and they want the thread deleted immediately. I think that they should know what YYJ's thoughts and what he exprienced word for word.

I am very disgusted by Gus' action and really feel for Yoon. If I was him I could not have been able to take the trash from Gus with such a professionalism.
was finding out how to post an article but saw this http://www.playxp.com/sc2/global/vie...cle_id=3561685.

sickness seems to have some replies in that thread

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yea this is the thread I was talking about. I already put a reply in the thread. Some LoF clan people were kind of defending the AZK's side
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Unread Tue, 8th-Nov-2011, 9:18 PM Location: Philippines  Total Posts Made: 2 # 3
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Dear SEA Community

I'd like to bring forward a couple of things concerning this situation and the criticism received.

First off, I am not speaking on behalf of any of the AZK team members or management. I know some of their clan members personally and I am friends with them, and have been talking to them about recent events.

They are all in distress. Many of the clan members had no idea about the scams, shame and controversial acts that took place behind their backs. Many of their members expected that of which was told to them, a tournament consisting of the best SEA players paired with some top pro Koreans. They had no idea about what AZK's management did to achieve such a goal as well...

Although what really shook me up while talking to one of them was his concern with the reputation of the players of AZK themselves. Almost none of the members of the team actually were aware of the events their manager Gus had been involved in, and what so called treachery he had committed towards the entire Starcraft 2 community. All they did was look up to him to provide for the team in hopes of becoming a well known and respected clan in SEA. Then when this happens, and suddenly the world turns against Team AZK, they feel extremely distressed not only because such a reputation has been given to the team, but the players feel that they are being blamed as well. Because the scams and such are depicted as 'Team AZK's' fault, or further flame such as 'Team AZK is a terrible team', the players feel as if they are being blamed for the entirety of the scams, and worst of all, some players are starting to believe that it is their fault as well, and as such, are questioning team commitments and total separation.

Now I am aware that some AZK members aren't on the top of the list of the friendliest Starcraft 2 players, but i know a handful of them, and they are extremely nice and friendly people, who are now shook up and lost entirely given the present situation. The players just did as their management told them to, and up until the current events, thought that the management was doing nothing wrong.

The players are also extremely sorry about your situation YoonYJ, and I know one of them that was even extremely eager to meet you. They had no idea about that such a breach, and they all feel betrayed and lost, and they all hope that they will still have a place in the Starcraft 2 SEA scene.

So I do ask you of the SEA community, a community of understanding, to just be aware of this, and maybe construct your posts with these facts in consideration.

I do feel what AZK management did was unacceptable and requires a formal apology if any condolences are to be made, but lets keep our fingers pointed toward them/him and maybe not towards the players themselves.

I post this not as an official statement from the team, nor as one of their members. I post this as a close friend of a couple of the AZK members, and do as for your consideration.

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Unread Tue, 8th-Nov-2011, 9:31 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: eehanProAnnn.969  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 694 # 4
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Dear SEA Community

I'd like to bring forward a couple of things concerning this situation and the criticism received.

First off, I am not speaking on behalf of any of the AZK team members or management. I know some of their clan members personally and I am friends with them, and have been talking to them about recent events.

They are all in distress. Many of the clan members had no idea about the scams, shame and controversial acts that took place behind their backs. Many of their members expected that of which was told to them, a tournament consisting of the best SEA players paired with some top pro Koreans. They had no idea about what AZK's management did to achieve such a goal as well...

Although what really shook me up while talking to one of them was his concern with the reputation of the players of AZK themselves. Almost none of the members of the team actually were aware of the events their manager Gus had been involved in, and what so called treachery he had committed towards the entire Starcraft 2 community. All they did was look up to him to provide for the team in hopes of becoming a well known and respected clan in SEA. Then when this happens, and suddenly the world turns against Team AZK, they feel extremely distressed not only because such a reputation has been given to the team, but the players feel that they are being blamed as well. Because the scams and such are depicted as 'Team AZK's' fault, or further flame such as 'Team AZK is a terrible team', the players feel as if they are being blamed for the entirety of the scams, and worst of all, some players are starting to believe that it is their fault as well, and as such, are questioning team commitments and total separation.

Now I am aware that some AZK members aren't on the top of the list of the friendliest Starcraft 2 players, but i know a handful of them, and they are extremely nice and friendly people, who are now shook up and lost entirely given the present situation. The players just did as their management told them to, and up until the current events, thought that the management was doing nothing wrong.

The players are also extremely sorry about your situation YoonYJ, and I know one of them that was even extremely eager to meet you. They had no idea about that such a breach, and they all feel betrayed and lost, and they all hope that they will still have a place in the Starcraft 2 SEA scene.

So I do ask you of the SEA community, a community of understanding, to just be aware of this, and maybe construct your posts with these facts in consideration.

I do feel what AZK management did was unacceptable and requires a formal apology if any condolences are to be made, but lets keep our fingers pointed toward them/him and maybe not towards the players themselves.

I post this not as an official statement from the team, nor as one of their members. I post this as a close friend of a couple of the AZK members, and do as for your consideration.
I think the name "AZK" have been ruined totally. I understand that not every single AZK members are as bad as ziek(zanoooooooku) / witchdoctor(GUSSSSS). But those 2 have totally ruined the name AZK enough. I would totally advice and recommend the remaining AZK players to quit AZK and form a new team so that they wouldnt be 'discriminated'.

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i will certainly bring forth that suggestion to the teams members. Hopefully the community will still be able to accept them :D
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Unread Tue, 8th-Nov-2011, 11:03 PM BnetId: TAdippa.684  Race: Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 663 # 5
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The players are also extremely sorry about your situation YoonYJ, and I know one of them that was even extremely eager to meet you. They had no idea about that such a breach, and they all feel betrayed and lost, and they all hope that they will still have a place in the Starcraft 2 SEA scene.
If the members of AZK remain on the team after this, then I'm sorry, they don't belong in the scene in my eyes.

Remaining on the team says to me that, while they're sorry for what's taken place, they're still happy to remain under the banner of what is clearly one of the most grossly unethical, manipulative, conceited management teams in eSports today.

The players need to take a stand and vote with their feet; what took place is not just wrong, but totally abhorrent.

Sorry isn't enough - they need to disavow from their organisation and start anew.

Remaining under AZK after this just says that they care more about handouts than they do integrity.

The ball's in your court kids.
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Unread Wed, 9th-Nov-2011, 12:51 PM BnetId: Weirdkid. 732  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 1 # 6
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So is what he says true? YoonYJ is ok with the issue already? Did he apologise to you personally, or only through this post?
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Unread Wed, 9th-Nov-2011, 12:30 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: Dox.792  Race: Location: Brisbane  Total Posts Made: 2,980 # 7
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Dear SEA Community

I'd like to bring forward a couple of things concerning this situation and the criticism received.

First off, I am not speaking on behalf of any of the AZK team members or management. I know some of their clan members personally and I am friends with them, and have been talking to them about recent events.

They are all in distress. Many of the clan members had no idea about the scams, shame and controversial acts that took place behind their backs. Many of their members expected that of which was told to them, a tournament consisting of the best SEA players paired with some top pro Koreans. They had no idea about what AZK's management did to achieve such a goal as well...

Although what really shook me up while talking to one of them was his concern with the reputation of the players of AZK themselves. Almost none of the members of the team actually were aware of the events their manager Gus had been involved in, and what so called treachery he had committed towards the entire Starcraft 2 community. All they did was look up to him to provide for the team in hopes of becoming a well known and respected clan in SEA. Then when this happens, and suddenly the world turns against Team AZK, they feel extremely distressed not only because such a reputation has been given to the team, but the players feel that they are being blamed as well. Because the scams and such are depicted as 'Team AZK's' fault, or further flame such as 'Team AZK is a terrible team', the players feel as if they are being blamed for the entirety of the scams, and worst of all, some players are starting to believe that it is their fault as well, and as such, are questioning team commitments and total separation.

Now I am aware that some AZK members aren't on the top of the list of the friendliest Starcraft 2 players, but i know a handful of them, and they are extremely nice and friendly people, who are now shook up and lost entirely given the present situation. The players just did as their management told them to, and up until the current events, thought that the management was doing nothing wrong.

The players are also extremely sorry about your situation YoonYJ, and I know one of them that was even extremely eager to meet you. They had no idea about that such a breach, and they all feel betrayed and lost, and they all hope that they will still have a place in the Starcraft 2 SEA scene.

So I do ask you of the SEA community, a community of understanding, to just be aware of this, and maybe construct your posts with these facts in consideration.

I do feel what AZK management did was unacceptable and requires a formal apology if any condolences are to be made, but lets keep our fingers pointed toward them/him and maybe not towards the players themselves.

I post this not as an official statement from the team, nor as one of their members. I post this as a close friend of a couple of the AZK members, and do as for your consideration.
Great post - although I'd just like to highlight that YoonYJ specifically mentioned that the AZK Team as a whole was full of very good people, and only went out of his way to mention Gus. In my blog I also highlighted Gus and Sonny as the troublemakers, whilst people such as Mariano were actually wonderful to work with.
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