[Bugalugs McScruffin]

Originally Posted by dragonnaus

quick question guys... is it worth running x64 windows 7?

My question would be why would you run x86 Windows 7? You wouldn't be getting the most out of your hardware. There are enough 64-bit drivers around very everything you'd need. I don't see the downside to running 64-bit over 32-bit...

[Rythos]

If you're running 32bit at the moment, I doubt you'd see vast improvements from upgrading your OS. I think the main benefit to 64bit as far as gaming is concerned is that it gets you past the 4GB (or whatever it is) RAM barrier.

[[TA]LoSt]

i7 2600K @ 3.4GHz (Not overclocked yet, don't think I'm going to)
8GB DDR3 RAM
nVidia GeForce GTX 570
60GB Kingston SSD

Fadey how much did those drives cost..?

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TADivinity:

I like to say i had input into this baby :)

[FaDeHellfyre]

Originally Posted by Rythos

If you're running 32bit at the moment, I doubt you'd see vast improvements from upgrading your OS. I think the main benefit to 64bit as far as gaming is concerned is that it gets you past the 4GB (or whatever it is) RAM barrier.

This is the major benefit from x64. As a 32 bit system, 4gb is all you get. 4gb Ram is now becoming the low end of the scale, and you're probably going to need 8-12gb soon to run games like Battlefield 3 and MW3.

To the person who posted the question, upgrade if you can to 64 bit.

[Aean(:]

Originally Posted by Hellfyre

4gb Ram is now becoming the low end of the scale, and you're probably going to need 8-12gb soon to run games like Battlefield 3 and MW3.

RAM has very little to do with running games, so I don't know what your on about. The only reason you would need more then say.. 3-4GB RAM is if you have 100 unnecessary programs running. I'm running off of 2GB RAM and I can have chrome open, itunes playing, sc2 open, msn, and a whole lot of other junk and I don't even surpass my memory capacity. I mean, maybe its 'cus I learnt to be efficient - I've been gaming on a 1GB RAM comp for a few years before upgrading to 2GB.

[FaDeHellfyre]

Originally Posted by Aean(:

RAM has very little to do with running games, so I don't know what your on about. The only reason you would need more then say.. 3-4GB RAM is if you have 100 unnecessary programs running. I'm running off of 2GB RAM and I can have chrome open, itunes playing, sc2 open, msn, and a whole lot of other junk and I don't even surpass my memory capacity. I mean, maybe its 'cus I learnt to be efficient - I've been gaming on a 1GB RAM comp for a few years before upgrading to 2GB.

Dunno about hundreds of unnecessary programs, but with all my gears drivers running, steam, skype, Virus Scan software and daemon tools all running, not to mention windows 7's numerous background programs that they automatically run, I need more RAM. I think if you look at your processes tab in windows task manager, you'll see what i mean. Currently i'm at 79 different processes running. I'm sure that's a little excessive. But 40-50 is common. However you do have a point, if you have nothing on your computer in the way of extra programs running then you should be fine.

Also, RAM does affect games. Different programs access different amounts of the RAM at any one point in time. Thus the more RAM you have, the higher amount of RAM your game can access. Similarly, The CPU processes through either your Hard Drive, or your RAM. RAM is dozens of times faster than your Hard Drive, so the more ram you have, the faster your CPU can run programs. So while it is not necessary to have lots of RAM, if you ever experience long ass loading times, or a bit of lag in a game when you move from one section to another, that would be because you dont have enough RAM.

[Fadey]

The m18x came with 2x 500gb SSH's , they are only like $110 each if that , the 240gb ocz vertex 3 was like $500+ tho. The m18x was all up about $4200 before the ocz hdd i added to it my self but because im getting it via work (tax free , gst free , 12% off raa code xD) comes to just under 2400.

[Maynarde]

Originally Posted by dragonnaus

quick question guys... is it worth running x64 windows 7?

A thousand times yes if you like memory.

With 32-bit Windows, you're stuck at 4GB of RAM, and even then, you're only using about 3.3GB of it, give or take. With 64-bit, 4GB of RAM is the new minimum standard, and with 4GB, you can run tons of applications with zero slowdown. Windows 7 (and Vista for that matter) runs so beautifully with 4GB of RAM you'll wonder how you ever did with less. It makes your system more futureproof too, so you can take your system to 8GB, 32GB or even a terabyte, before too long.

Ps. MY RIG!

i7-960
GTX 460
1TB HDD
24GB DDR3 RAM

[Bugalugs McScruffin]

Originally Posted by Maynarde

A thousand times yes if you like memory.

With 32-bit Windows, you're stuck at 4GB of RAM, and even then, you're only using about 3.3GB of it, give or take. With 64-bit, 4GB of RAM is the new minimum standard, and with 4GB, you can run tons of applications with zero slowdown. Windows 7 (and Vista for that matter) runs so beautifully with 4GB of RAM you'll wonder how you ever did with less. It makes your system more futureproof too, so you can take your system to 8GB, 32GB or even a terabyte, before too long.

Ps. MY RIG!

i7-960
GTX 460
1TB HDD
24GB DDR3 RAM

Only 24GB of RAM? I am disappoint.

[FaDeHellfyre]

Originally Posted by Maynarde

A thousand times yes if you like memory.

With 32-bit Windows, you're stuck at 4GB of RAM, and even then, you're only using about 3.3GB of it, give or take. With 64-bit, 4GB of RAM is the new minimum standard, and with 4GB, you can run tons of applications with zero slowdown. Windows 7 (and Vista for that matter) runs so beautifully with 4GB of RAM you'll wonder how you ever did with less. It makes your system more futureproof too, so you can take your system to 8GB, 32GB or even a terabyte, before too long.

Ps. MY RIG!

i7-960
GTX 460
1TB HDD
24GB DDR3 RAM

That 24gb ram in 4x8Gb sticks? How much were they?

[Maynarde]

Originally Posted by Bugalugs McScruffin

Only 24GB of RAM? I am disappoint.

Yep! 4 x 6GB Kingston Hyper X sticks!

A modest amount I know, but hey I like memory.

That 24gb ram in 4x8Gb sticks? How much were they?

8 times 4 is 32 brah. I think they were about 60 bucks for a kit, was a while back though I built this rig about 6 months ago and forgot most of the prices. I bought all my stuff from MSY. So cheap and so stocked.

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Bugalugs McScruffin:

MSY is always my first stop when looking for computer parts.

[FaDeHellfyre]

Lol dur.. Math fail from me. Thats what i meant.

OOOOOOO nice link. I'm now scrolling through there seeing if they have cheaper options than Netplus, a shop local to me.

[x5_Potter]

AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+ (2 CPUs), ~2.6GHz
4gig RAM
ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series
2TB HDD.

[Harli]

Originally Posted by Maynarde

A thousand times yes if you like memory.

24GB DDR3 RAM

Geez 24GB!!! You really do like your memory. I don't think there anything I could run right now that would even push past the need for 4GB...

[ToRDjvillian]

Originally Posted by Maynarde

I bought all my stuff from MSY. So cheap and so stocked.

Dude thanks! Im looking at building my own/first rig by purchasing components fortnightly and I dropped into the MSY store in fyshwick (industrial area) but wasn't going to go back there cause I could see no price tags and assumed it was to expensive.

The rig I plan on building is basically the high end gaming build from build-gaming-computers.com/with alterations to suit my budget (feel free to criticise as it may help me make the right choices but im certain on the asus sabertooth p67 motherboard).

At the moment I'm using an asus notebook N61Jq series:
Intel i7 Q720 @ 1.6ghz (2.8ghz turbo mode)
4g ram (2x 2g sticks that I want to upgrade)
500gb seagate hdd 5400rpm
ATI radeon hd 5730
Windows 7, 64x bit
Sc2 razer peripherals: spectre, marauder and banshee (I place the marauder keyboard on top of the built in keyboard :P)


It used to run and still can at times, sc2 on ultra settings. ($1299 off eBay)

I want to get a ssd to replace the hdd in my current laptop but will probably just get one and put it in the laptop until the tower is ready for it.

[Eddie]

AMD Phenom II X6 1090T (CPU)
Gigabyte GA-970A-D3 AM3 970 (MB)
8 gb (1600 mhz) DD3 (Ram)
OCZ Facilty 750W (PSU)
WD 300gb VelociRaptor Sata-II (System Hdd)
GTX 480 1536mb

[|Erasmus|]

Originally Posted by Djvillian

Dude thanks! Im looking at building my own/first rig by purchasing components fortnightly and I dropped into the MSY store in fyshwick (industrial area) but wasn't going to go back there cause I could see no price tags and assumed it was to expensive.

The rig I plan on building is basically the high end gaming build from build-gaming-computers.com/with alterations to suit my budget (feel free to criticise as it may help me make the right choices but im certain on the asus sabertooth p67 motherboard).

MSY are -the- cheapest place in Aus... unless your budget is pushing $2K that motherboard will eat too much into upgrading something else, imo.

I like the whirlpool knowledge base for really good budget gaming builds (http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/rmp_sg_...ming_configs_1)

[FaDeHellfyre]

Originally Posted by |Erasmus|

MSY are -the- cheapest place in Aus... unless your budget is pushing $2K that motherboard will eat too much into upgrading something else, imo.

I like the whirlpool knowledge base for really good budget gaming builds (http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/rmp_sg_...ming_configs_1)

Dunno about *the* cheapest. I know of a shop in my area, only a local store, but still. [url=www.netplus.com.au[url] has cheaper prices on all the parts, such as motherboard and cpu's.

But it looks like in terms of coverage and price, MSY are definitely brilliant.

[lithium8813]

My rig:
i5-760 (no oc)
8gb gskill 1333 ram
MSI Twin Frozr 3 6950 2GB
Antec 650w
Viewsonic 24" LED monitor
1tb wd black hd drive.
Windows 7 64bit

Thinking about getting a das keyboard and/or a logitech g700 mouse, because for some reason I have money to burn before BF3 comes out!

[TADivinity]

i5-2500 (Dont need 2500k bcos im scared of OCing, and i7 isnt that big a change for $100+ :O )
GTX 570.
8gb ram
64gb SSD <-- Jizzworthy. For the extra cash, I would recommend one of these babies anyday (Although just gotta be careful with what goes on it

yeh thats the basics.

This thing is one of the pride and joys of my life. Lets just say its lucky I dont have a kid, or he/she would be both unfavoured, and neglected.