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ALRIGHT SINCE IM LEAVING IM WEIGHING IN HERE

What are you idiots doing?

Originally Posted by Nirvana

lol @ del trying to put down any event he is not a part off. This is a fun event I'm taking the time to organise for the community. Stop viewing us a threat, we aren't going to take away your "importance" or the tournaments you organise.

Why are you taking a cheap shot at deL here? What is the purpose? You're an admin, act professionally - if you feel deL's being overly dickish, infract him and formally send him a PM 'don't be a dick', don't turn it into some deL vs 'the community' thing. If you want to give a personal opinion, don't infract - either you moderate and stay out of it, or you step down from your post and don't, otherwise it's conflicting interest. This is internet moderation 101.

Either way you should have just PM'd him to hush if you felt it was over the line, or simply infracted and stayed out of it. Infractions/rep system do not exist to get the last word in, and this is not your argument anyways. I'm not surprised deL flipped out on you because this is unacceptable.

Originally Posted by Nirvana

People are free to express their opinions about the lineups

So how does this fit with the deL thing? He was expressing an opinion, whether fully informed or not. Opinions means you can also say negative things, but you then slammed down a trumped-up personal attack on him. Classy.

By the way, deL isn't trolling, because that has a very specific definition. He's not trying to get a rise out of people by baiting them, he's expressing his own view.

Originally Posted by Nirvana

Its supposed to be a fun tournament and celebration but its already tainted by del in the very first post as you can see.

No Nirvana, it was tainted when you turned it into a you vs deL argument because you took a comment, moderated it, and then went in swinging to make it a personal battle. You could have deleted the post, ignored it altogether and let the rep system handle it (you know, that system that lets users perform minor moderation that you specifically put through), or infracted it and left an impartial message, or even just PM'd him to cheer up.

Originally Posted by Nirvana

So I temp banned him for that rant and in "retaliation" he instantly abandoned the BSGCL with the reason being "blame nirvana", even going as far to delete the OP which contained all the vital information for the BSG teams (this was restored).

Ok hang on. deL, what are you doing? This is what people like IdrA and NeverGG do to spite people, being petty as hell and directly hurting the community to try to get back at someone. Both of them ended up banned and damned sure deserved it.

Originally Posted by Nirvana

He already lost all the trust from the community by suddenly abandoning the BSGCL in anger.

What? The community? Did the community ask to remove him from Team Australia? Are you in charge of Team Australia? What gives you the authority to make these decisions? I'm just seeing you lash out and worsen a situation to get the last hit in for no good reason. If this was as serious as you make it, you wouldn't have to remove him from his position (a position, I might add, that doesn't answer to you), because there would be pressure from the team itself.

Both of you acted embarrassingly for your positions. I have sympathy for deL in this situation, but when you call someone out, it's better to make it mannered, because your purpose isn't to injure the recipient, but expose them to the community and garner support. You've been a part of the SC community for years, you should know how to act in the internet. Nirvana... goddamnit. Moderators don't get to inflict their personal opinions on people when performing professional roles, for the same reason policemen don't get to brawl with people they're angry with. You stay detached from that and handle it with the purpose of facilitation and pacification, not fightin' and ignitin'.

And most importantly, this entire thread should not exist. All it does is diminish public opinion of all involved, and this isn't a forum issue - it's a personal issue between the two of you that should be settled privately and not via moderation.

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