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Unread Thu, 18th-Aug-2011, 1:41 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: aLtnirvAnA.951  BattleTag: nirvAnA#1429  Race: Clan: aLt  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 4,857 # 1
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Update: Jaczie is the confirmed caster for the Singapore vs Taiwan games this week!
Her co-caster will probably be Paz(to be confimed)

http://www.twitch.tv/jaczie

Also, as some of you may know after dels sudden withdrawal from the BSGCL I cannot trust him to perform his duties and he will be relieved of his position of Team Australia's Manager.

Long story short is yesterday I infracted him for making a negative comment about the racewar lineups because he did not bother to read the post properly and the full lineups we not up. (note: I did not infract saint/sensei who also made a negative comment, because he DID read.) Unhappy with the infraction he went on to make a 400word rant making a huge personal attack on sc2sea, the mods on the site and somehow my poor wife ended up getting some too. So I temp banned him for that rant and in "retaliation" he instantly abandoned the BSGCL with the reason being "blame nirvana", even going as far to delete the OP which contained all the vital information for the BSG teams (this was restored).

Due to this, I cannot trust him to perform his duties should something similar occur and we have decided to relieve him from his duty as Team Australia manager for Nation Wars. To maintain good management of the Australian team, which is one of the current favorites to win this event, Dox will replace del as the Team Australian manager to provide good scheduling and management for the team and ensure they perform their best until the end of Nation Wars.

I have spoken to jump and DoX already to confirm this and from this moment on DoX will be replacing deL as Team Australia's Manager in the Nation Wars.

All team selections and player lineups against China will remain exactly the same. DoX will be helping coordinate and arrange the times with his players for the match vs China, and if Australia reaches the finals he will be submitting the 5 chosen players in the finals. The Australian Team selection will stay intact for the rest of the season.

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Unread Wed, 17th-Aug-2011, 10:14 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAdeL#159  BattleTag: FXOdeL#468  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,917 # 2
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Meh pretty boring lineups after all prob won't watch.

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C'mon man, 1 year anniversary! Definitely worth the watch!
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lol lineups are not even out, nice try again to put down any event not orgnaised by you. grow up man
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Unread Wed, 17th-Aug-2011, 5:48 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: aLtnirvAnA.951  BattleTag: nirvAnA#1429  Race: Clan: aLt  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 4,857 # 3
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lol @ del trying to put down any event he is not a part off. This is a fun event I'm taking the time to organise for the community. Stop viewing us a threat, we aren't going to take away your "importance" or the tournaments you organise.

Update: benji, tgun, iaguz, Azz, edge and soulmanfou have accepted their invites.

More players will be added to the confirmed list as the replies come in, the list so far was just whoever was on at 2am last night.
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Unread Wed, 17th-Aug-2011, 6:37 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAdeL#159  BattleTag: FXOdeL#468  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,917 # 4
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lol @ del trying to put down any event not organised by him. Stop viewing us a threat, we aren't going to take away your "importance" or the tournaments you organise.
I don't organise any tournaments on SEA... I thought those were final lineups seeing you didn't list other invites anywhere and stated my opinion on the lineup.

Sorry for having an opinion. ******* sick of this bullshit, I'll be sure to suck your tiny asian dick every time you so much as fart on this site next time. SC2SEA seems more like one big wank for you to rip off team liquid and feel like you're doing something for the community, and for the few moronic admins to feel like they are a TL admin.

Just because you put a half-arsed 1.5 hours of effort in to someone else's idea doesn't entitle you to praise. Yes we realise it's out of your pocket and yes we realise sc2sea is useful for SEA coverage, but you already compensate that with your constant putting aLt on a pedestal, denying anyone an opinion, shoving coaching down our throats, or flogging your grandmaster manual piece of shit to victims who don't know any better. You can have a successful community without cupping each others balls over every ******* piece of shit you churn out, and having people around to challenge your ideas with view to improve them is a positive thing.

You always use maturity and stubbornness as an argument against me correcting you or any TA member doing anything but you should take a look in the ******* mirror. The other day I asked quite innocently about whether there would be a 2nd season of SEACL or SEASL and you said Mr Ray lost interest. You said it'd because of all the childish comments (read: legitimate questioning of faulty rules) and I joked that it was dodgy administrating (not really true but at least you should have had the balls to not let shit like disallowing a big part of the SEA community fly). If I did the same it would be an instant ban and berating of me to your mates, but did all of TA come on and stir shit afterwards? No. Did I hold a grudge and pidgeonhole your entire personality off one event? No. You live in your own world where everyone who disagrees is conducting a direct personal attack on you and if you weren't so insecure you would realise it's not the case.

The person I most feel sorry for is your wife.
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Unread Mon, 22nd-Aug-2011, 5:53 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: EU.Nemo #368  Race: Location: Paris, France  Total Posts Made: 752 # 5
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I didn't want to get involved in this since I don't know the history before those events.

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I'll be sure to suck your tiny asian dick every time you so much as fart on this site next time.
But this is something that made me jump of my chair. It's racism ! Judging or insulting someone on its race it's plainly disgusting.

That could be said on a such multi-ethnic community and that nobody react is beyond my understanding.

Del, racism has done so much evil, suffering and death in this world, even recently, how can you speak about helping build South East Asia community and say such things.

For his friends, there is a time when you must tell (privately) the truth to your friend and tell him how degrading such ideas and speech are, whatever the circumstances. Stress and anger absolutly don't excuse that, it just shows our deep ideas. That time has come now (if you didn't already have).

Del, know that whatever they say or they don't say, every Asian person that has read your sentence will think about it each time they see you. Facing racism agaisnt you is something you usually don't speak about but that you never forget.

I strongly advice you to publicly apology to nirvAnA for that sentence and admit racism is a plague to reject.

The rest is nothing compared to this.

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And most importantly, this entire thread should not exist.
All it does is diminish public opinion of all involved, and this isn't a forum issue - it's a personal issue between the two of you that should be settled privately and not via moderation.
The whole truth should be said since there was several impacts concerning other people (cancel of tournament, etc.).

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What del's racism was spare the moment and from what I remember, he told me that he was regretful straight away. Plus he uncancelled the tournament within hours.
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Unread Wed, 17th-Aug-2011, 7:04 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: aLtnirvAnA.951  BattleTag: nirvAnA#1429  Race: Clan: aLt  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 4,857 # 6
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So del admitted he left that comment because he thought it was the final lineup. I infracted him because he clearly did not read the OP and was so quick to say something negative about it. Anyway, once he realised it was not the final lineup instead of retracting his comment he decided to leave a 400 word essay about how opinions are not allowed (notice how sAint's comment is perfectly acceptable because he DID read the OP) and the whole sc2sea community is a worthless TL rip off and admins are moronic TL moderator wannabes (i'm sure DoX, BakaInu and Eddie would love to hear that) Oh and also to get extra personal he added something about being sorry for my wife. del was banned for 2 weeks for his actions on both his accounts.

This thread is about the racewars and one year anniversary celebrations. People are free to express their opinions about the lineups and talk about it but any derailment will be removed from this thread. The whole point of this was to have a celebration event for 1 year of the sc2sea community. Imagine what it would be like if sc2sea.com never existed, there would be no tournaments like COs, SEASL, SEACL, BSGS, GPD or even a place for our community to gather, find clans, find partners etc. Neither will there be easy tournament information and organisation since all SEA news get buried so fast on TL due to in being so popular with bigger events.

Moderators/admins dedicate countless hours of their own time to manage and run things, and to keep a delicate balance between whats being allowed and what isn't so we don't end up like sites tolerated trolling/immaturity and have become unpleasant and have died off. del has managed to abuse / discredit the site, the moderators and somehow my wife too all in one paragraph. He has been already temp banned three times in the past and not by me, by bakainu - for basically making the unpleasant environment we want to avoid.

But for every del there are a thousand people who appreciate and love the community we have formed over here. I wish to celebrate this awesome SEA community that has developed over this 1 year and do not want this thread to be turned into some E-Drama (dox/major) that will overshadow our 1 year birthday. Please stick on topic and enjoy the Race Wars!
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