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Unread Thu, 14th-Jul-2011, 4:33 PM BnetId: ToRDeathsFng.788  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 764 # 1
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I think the sky terran strat could be viable TvP (since we all know that toss has crappy anit-air), but TvZ i'm not so sure.
Don't quote me on this one but i think Phoenix beats Vikings food-for-food (in equal numbers). Terran's that use a lot of air units generally have to give up all map control until they can get out Banshees and even after that they will be pretty vulnerable until they can get that critical mass. Banshees are really good, do good damage, but they need bigger numbers to be unstoppable.

Idk, it could work in TvP. If i saw a Terran doing this all-air strat i would probably instantly start getting Phoenix/Stalkers with HT support to feeback ravens or storm the banshees. Until this is tested we don't know how viable it would be

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Unread Sun, 17th-Jul-2011, 6:06 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: EU.Nemo #368  Race: Location: Paris, France  Total Posts Made: 752 # 2
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Don't quote me on this one but i think Phoenix beats Vikings food-for-food (in equal numbers).
Food for Food yes (both are 2 or 3 I think) but not cost for cost. Once we were arguing about it with Cosmos and we finally went to Unit Tester Map. 15 Phoenixes beat 15 Vikings but 16 Vikings beat 15 Phoenixes. Considering Viking are 150/75 and Phoenix 150/100, Viking have the edge.

That reflexion drove him to his banshee build that is his standard in TvP and he has huge success with it. He beat inf with it on ladder for instance. The only replay I found was : http://www.terranimba.com/replay/sz8E0Bs3XOqGAmf6R8

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Idk, it could work in TvP. If i saw a Terran doing this all-air strat i would probably instantly start getting Phoenix/Stalkers with HT support to feeback ravens or storm the banshees. Until this is tested we don't know how viable it would be
It is perfectly viable and strong. I can't tell more about possible defenses as it is not my build and I don't want to give away other's secrets without their permission.

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Terran's that use a lot of air units generally have to give up all map control until they can get out Banshees and even after that they will be pretty vulnerable until they can get that critical mass. Banshees are really good, do good damage, but they need bigger numbers to be unstoppable.
In TvT the more viable "Sky Terran" is probably the iEchoic 1-2-2. Its is very special to play, very fragile but beats any guy that is not aware of the threats. His main strength is to have total Map Control and force the opponent to turtle on 2 bases. Thors kills it if BC are not ready soon.
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