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deL · Sun, 26th-Jun-2011, 7:46 PM

Team Australia

Team Manager : TAdeL#159
Number of Players : 12

Direct Invites

Core squad

Azz

TAdeth

TAEdgE

nGenLight

FXOmOOnGLaDe

iMYoonYJ

Additional invites

TARossi

FXOtgun

aLtiaguz

nGenMafiA

Qualified Players

The following player recieves an invite to the team based on the group stages:

TASenSei

The following players placed in the qualifier playoffs. aLtPiG will recieve the first invite into the team and players placing 2nd and 3rd will also get a guaranteed place in the team using 2 of the 4 substitutions available.

1st.

aLtPiG
2nd.

QxGShuffle
3rd.

Ninja

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cRSenSei · Sun, 26th-Jun-2011, 8:14 PM

give me more zergs please?

TAavanar · Sun, 26th-Jun-2011, 9:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sAint

give me more zergs please?

you only have to play one MU...wats the problem with that?

NvRossi · Sun, 26th-Jun-2011, 9:31 PM

you're lucky get to practice for 1 matchup

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cRSenSei:

this is true ( :

deL · Sun, 26th-Jun-2011, 9:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TARossi

you're lucky get to practice for 1 matchup

And one of those matchups isn't PvP ;D

cRSenSei · Sun, 26th-Jun-2011, 9:42 PM

Ok, lets put it this way.
I win PvT, I win PvP, I lose PvZ.

Benji · Sun, 26th-Jun-2011, 9:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sAint

Ok, lets put it this way.
I win PvT, I win PvP, I lose PvZ.

Then due to the blind nature of the Team League, you're a risky player to put forward as you'll autolose 33% of the time before the game has even started. (to a very popular race at that)

cRSenSei · Sun, 26th-Jun-2011, 9:55 PM

In GSTL there are specific snipers for matchups?? (in saying that the leagues going to be that format)

Benji · Sun, 26th-Jun-2011, 10:14 PM

Its not allkill format

JesseTheKING · Tue, 28th-Jun-2011, 1:17 PM

agree with the direct invites, good picks there.

as for the qualifiers why aren't i inside when im higher then nearly everyone else on the GM ladder? Apart from my clan mates who are actually worthy invites but cleverly made to kill each other in the same group. pinder inactive for even longer than me and gets a slot? funny shit. oh yeh i forgot del is running this thats why.

nobody else noticed how he put all TA in two of the groups so at least two more TAs qualify from each group. good strategic mind you have del, maybe you should spend more time using it in starcraft instead and you won't be platinum forever.

Quick Comments

	NvRossi:	trying too hard
	TAriiChard:	LOL and if the TA players more more evenly distributed in the groups then you'd complain about group fixing. Nice try.
	Benji:	Jesse <3
	nirvAnA:	lol jesse sif u want to play! you said u were too inactive for clanwars even!
	deL:	1) Didn't know you were active (not even in SEA CL), but thanks for pointing out why you shouldn't play. 2) There is team dynamic to consider, no room for big egoes and team members that no one likes. 3) The all-TA group had spider but he withdrew.
	iM tgun:	You're more of a jackass than most of the TA members.
	TAavanar:	u didnt even play in the CL

NvRossi · Tue, 28th-Jun-2011, 1:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JesseTheKING

maybe you should spend more time using it in starcraft instead and you won't be platinum forever.

oh shiyat jesse pulling out the big guns. dont try to be too insulting

**TAEdgE** · Tue, 28th-Jun-2011, 1:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JesseTheKING

agree with the direct invites, good picks there.

as for the qualifiers why aren't i inside when im higher then nearly everyone else on the GM ladder? Apart from my clan mates who are actually worthy invites but cleverly made to kill each other in the same group. pinder inactive for even longer than me and gets a slot? funny shit. oh yeh i forgot del is running this thats why.

nobody else noticed how he put all TA in two of the groups so at least two more TAs qualify from each group. good strategic mind you have del, maybe you should spend more time using it in starcraft instead and you won't be platinum forever.

If the TA players don't actually deserve to be in the team, then in the 3 qualifiers + wildcard games they will most likely lose? Seems pretty simple. If your clan mates are most deserving they will win? How is it not TA killing themselves in the same group too then also?

Pinder has come back this week and has been beating many, many top players already, and they needed a PROTOSS REPLACEMENT FOR INFISPIDER, who else would be more suitable? True, you could be in the qualifiers, and probably should be so that's a shame, but pinder was in the first Team Australia so he has the history and the best time to become active again.

I'd agree it's not fair but do not take unwarranted stabs at people please.

Quick Comments

Hocus:

using facts and reason, vintage 'what's on your head?' approach

cRSenSei · Tue, 28th-Jun-2011, 1:21 PM

i don't know what world you come from but rank 50 gm with 50% win ratio isn't higher than everyone else in the tryouts apart from your clanmates O_O

i think the invitees are fine

**nGenLight** · Tue, 28th-Jun-2011, 3:46 PM

Staying out of the grouping argument.

I personally think Jesse/KJH deserves a spot in the qualifiers provided they are active.

Also, I can support for how much Pinder has been ripping it up lately.

Benji · Tue, 28th-Jun-2011, 3:54 PM

KJH has never won or entered anything.

**nGenLight** · Tue, 28th-Jun-2011, 3:56 PM

He just came second in the Brissy comp.

deL · Tue, 28th-Jun-2011, 4:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nGenLight

He just came second in the Brissy comp.

True, but he got a walkover against his Ro8 opponent and his semi-final win was 2-1 over Hectic, a talented player but one who has about 1 game a week if that due to his work and is not at the level required for this competition. Can't read too much into it.

I have watched his FP Stream a lot and have not seen too many impressive results - he was in the first Aus team for the NW League so don't think I hadn't considered him. He would definitely be considered were any other players were to step down from the qualifiers, though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JesseTheKING

agree with the direct invites, good picks there.

as for the qualifiers why aren't i inside when im higher then nearly everyone else on the GM ladder? Apart from my clan mates who are actually worthy invites but cleverly made to kill each other in the same group. pinder inactive for even longer than me and gets a slot? funny shit. oh yeh i forgot del is running this thats why.

nobody else noticed how he put all TA in two of the groups so at least two more TAs qualify from each group. good strategic mind you have del, maybe you should spend more time using it in starcraft instead and you won't be platinum forever.

First up, I didn't know you were active as you didn't even compete as part of aLt in the recent SEA ClanLeague.

Secondly, your post kind of proved why you won't be considered for the team. Your attitude is not that of a team player - the way you lash out with some absurd claims rather than asking politely to be considered for selection shows you're not mature enough to work as a team for such an important event. There's no room for out of control egoes or players that no one else can stand to be around in a team event.

Third, the all-TA group was formed because Spider withdrew of his own accord and required a potential Protoss replacement and it just so happened Pinder was back from inactivity and performing solidly. Your accusations of fixing the groups are of course absurd - if TA was in any way being favoured they would recieve either direct invites or be spread amongst the groups to their advantage seeing top 2 go through. Having all TA in one group means 2 players who could potentially qualify from TA will not have a chance...

If you are going to argue why so many TA players were included in the qualifiers in the first place then consider the "big 4" of the SEA teams (inFi, TA, nGen, aLt). A similar number of players from each team would be at a similar skill level - say, good enough to be considered for the national team - and TA is almost an all-Australian team. Of course a lot of Team Aus representatives are going to be from TA in just the same way that there are no TA members representing the Singapore team, but there are aLt players because it's a Singapore clan.

EDIT: @EdgE yeah if kyzersoze is Aussie he can for sure play - KJH too. If 2 more players are suggested who could play for Aus in addition to KJH I'd see no problem increasing the group sizes.

cRSenSei · Tue, 28th-Jun-2011, 4:08 PM

And he was in team aus season 1.

**TAEdgE** · Tue, 28th-Jun-2011, 4:11 PM

Maybe adding 1 extra player to each group would be a good idea. Jesse/KJH/??

An idea could be using highest ranked left over aus ladder player. Seems like it's... not sure. Don't know if kyzersoze is aussie

cRSenSei · Tue, 28th-Jun-2011, 4:26 PM

more people the better =) 5 per group sounds good to me!

kjh/kyzersoze/filthy??

**TAEdgE** · Tue, 28th-Jun-2011, 4:31 PM

i think kyzersoze is singaporean unfortunantly, they just didn't put him in their ladder thing.. T_T

I know you guys probably don't want another TA to try but what about LoSt? Good to have another protoss try out who's top 100 GM. Just a thought

iM MaFia · Wed, 29th-Jun-2011, 5:03 AM

from my experience in nGen playing in the TW clan league most of the TW clans arent very strong, although id have to say the chinese clans had some very strong players

mOOnGLaDe · Wed, 29th-Jun-2011, 12:42 PM

from my experience with the taiwan teams they're about mid-high level master players on korea, which is pretty good but not super gosu

chinese players arent that great at the moment though theres a few exceptions for the ones that have been training on korea all this time before the chinese release

i def think we can take china and taiwan tho, our lineup is pretty good ^_^

**PiG** · Tue, 28th-Jun-2011, 5:08 PM

Give ninja a shot. Won a CO the other week and placed pretty high at wcg. With teammates 2 practice with he'd b an asset to the squad for sure.

**nGenLight** · Tue, 28th-Jun-2011, 5:12 PM

^ how did we miss Ninja? =0

Add kjh, ninja, jesse IMO.

deL · Tue, 28th-Jun-2011, 5:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PiG

Give ninja a shot. Won a CO the other week and placed pretty high at wcg. With teammates 2 practice with he'd b an asset to the squad for sure.

OMG how did I forget ninja! I knew there was someone else at WCG who impressed me.

Ninja and nGenKJH, now we just need one more - possibilities include Pringles (if Australian?), MrBreeSPR, maybe TALoSt.

**TAEdgE** · Tue, 28th-Jun-2011, 5:13 PM

Yeh nice choice there pig. Quite overlooked!

cRSenSei · Tue, 28th-Jun-2011, 5:19 PM

Didn't Del say no to Jesse on team?

Guc/KJH/Ninja maybe?

**nirvAnA** · Tue, 28th-Jun-2011, 5:23 PM

if voices is there and hes considered a team player i dont see how jesse shoudlnt be, he can be a total bitch sometimes but hes really mannered to us / his team!

im pretty sure he has no intention of playing tho hes just trolling like that lol

Quick Comments

TAEdgE:

Good point, but voices did actually apologise just recently :D!

NvPinder · Tue, 28th-Jun-2011, 5:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nirvAnA

if voices is there and hes considered a team player i dont see how jesse shoudlnt be, he can be a total bitch sometimes but hes really mannered to us / his team!

im pretty sure he has no intention of playing tho hes just trolling like that lol

Probably because everyone in the lineup except probably tgun has no problem with voices.

Whilst like everyone in the line up is probably not a huge fan of jesse.

**iM tgun** · Tue, 28th-Jun-2011, 5:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPMoney

Probably because everyone in the lineup except probably tgun has no problem with voices.

Whilst like everyone in the line up is probably not a huge fan of jesse.

I have no problem with voices.

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deL:

(Y)

deL · Tue, 28th-Jun-2011, 5:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nirvAnA

if voices is there and hes considered a team player i dont see how jesse shoudlnt be, he can be a total bitch sometimes but hes really mannered to us / his team!

im pretty sure he has no intention of playing tho hes just trolling like that lol

I think this proves your point wrong.

TAVoices making a genuine attempt at making up for his BM - which was out of passion for the game rather than regular dickery - and Jesse decides to troll it/shoot it down -.-

**nirvAnA** · Tue, 28th-Jun-2011, 6:40 PM

kyzersoze is singaporean - confirmed!

yea ninja should have a shot too

aLtNinja · Tue, 28th-Jun-2011, 9:12 PM

i'd like to play if you increase the group sizes

deL · Tue, 28th-Jun-2011, 9:17 PM

Happy to, Ninja

Just need one more with KJH. Prefer a Protoss but not sure if LoSt is playing much. Any suggestions?

aLtNinja · Tue, 28th-Jun-2011, 9:57 PM

Nah, i dont really know many protoss on sea

**iM tgun** · Tue, 28th-Jun-2011, 10:09 PM

I support ninjas entrance.

ROOT`iaguz · Tue, 28th-Jun-2011, 10:37 PM

Hands up who thinks we're gonna get thrashed by taiwan/china ><

Ah well, let's give 'em a good show lads.

**iM tgun** · Wed, 29th-Jun-2011, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iaguz

Hands up who thinks we're gonna get thrashed by taiwan/china ><

Ah well, let's give 'em a good show lads.

Can't tell if trolling or not

**PiG** · Wed, 29th-Jun-2011, 2:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iaguz

Hands up who thinks we're gonna get thrashed by taiwan/china ><

Ah well, let's give 'em a good show lads.

China should be a good match. Besides Sen though, is TW that good?

I've heard they have pro-teams living in houses and its on tv and stuff... but I've also heard this is all a pretty new development and Sen is like 100times above their level. Im guessing Kelly would be the one to ask as she commentates some of their stuff right?

[TA]LoSt · Thu, 30th-Jun-2011, 7:04 PM

Don't put me in. As much as I'd love to trial, I'm just playing nowhere near my best at the moment, and even if I was I don't think it'd be at a high enough level to represent Australia anyway.

Quick Comments

deL:

That's OK there's a height limit. You must be THIS tall to ride Team Australia.

iM MaFia · Mon, 4th-Jul-2011, 3:02 AM

TAyang? imo as the last slot

NvRossi · Mon, 4th-Jul-2011, 4:13 AM

yea great idea mafia

**PiG** · Mon, 4th-Jul-2011, 4:26 AM

zomg why are us dirty sydney people still awake?

NvRossi · Mon, 4th-Jul-2011, 9:42 AM

i wish i had a valid reason

Quick Comments

deL:

I have less reason to be awake in Canberra, where sleep is one of the main attractions -.-

deL · Mon, 4th-Jul-2011, 12:31 PM

OK TAyang he has had some really impressive wins lately over top players, out of nowhere! And he's Protoss too so it means even more.

Next weekend the Round Robin tournament will commence, is the time suitable for everyone? Either post here or PM me (on sc2sea, as deL on TL, or on Bnet with the IDs in my sig) to confirm your participation. If you can't make the time let me know when you can play, though if you can't make weekends you probably shouldn't be in the league as most rounds will probably be on weekends.

iM MaFia · Thu, 7th-Jul-2011, 9:10 PM

damn this aussie lineup looks so incredible and strong... i feel really sorry for the other nations lol

Quick Comments

deL:

Don't feel sorry they are the enemy from now on!

deL · Sat, 9th-Jul-2011, 2:29 PM

As you can see lots of the Group A games have been played, I'd like to get the rest of the games played over tonight and tomorrow night!

Remember there are a lot of games to play and they are Bo3 so don't leave all of them until the default time or it might get too late for some people.

Meet up at 8PM tonight in channel TeamAUS to see if any of your group members are on and organise some games, I will be around to take results and remind you of map vetoes, etc.

deL · Sun, 10th-Jul-2011, 6:35 PM

Post results in this thread please, I am doing the FXO KOTH atm and can't supervise until this is finished.

AvPoker · Sun, 10th-Jul-2011, 7:35 PM

Hi, problem.

Noone from Group C except for me and Sanchez came to the channel TeamAUS for the games, and Sanchez seems to be playing something else. Should we arrange games for ourselves?

P.S Mark my race as random, as this will be my main race from now on

deL · Sun, 10th-Jul-2011, 8:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokerface

Hi, problem.

Noone from Group C except for me and Sanchez came to the channel TeamAUS for the games, and Sanchez seems to be playing something else. Should we arrange games for ourselves?

P.S Mark my race as random, as this will be my main race from now on

Try to organise them yeah, I will check NA and MSN after this if you wanna leave what times you are free in this thread.

Also you're better as Z.

AvPoker · Sun, 10th-Jul-2011, 8:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TAdeL

Try to organise them yeah, I will check NA and MSN after this if you wanna leave what times you are free in this thread.

Also you're better as Z.

Nah, I beat Sanchez 2:1 deL.

Lost first game ZvZ
Won next two games PvZ

cRSenSei · Sun, 10th-Jul-2011, 10:00 PM

sAint 2-0 pokerface

**PiG** · Sun, 10th-Jul-2011, 10:34 PM

PiG 2-0 TAyang

Del if you could help me reach GGfight, Shuffle and Amnesiac that would be much appreciated. You can give them my skype details if you like (posted below in my signature).

I'll be available to play the matches tomorrow afternoon/evening

deL · Sun, 10th-Jul-2011, 10:50 PM

Thanks guys updated the OP. Next scheduled meetup time is Monday July 11th 8PM AEST and I will try and make it if possible. The way it will work is we have until next weekend to get the rest of the games done before walkovers are considered, then we have that sunday and the rest of the week to finish the final group to submit the roster on time. Any word I get from players on their availability I will get them to post here or post it myself to try help you guys organise a time, and I can pass on MSN etc. if you need to get in touch yourself.

@PiG Shuffle and FighT are usually found on NA, I will try remind them but if I don't get back to you in time try finding them on NA server!

**PiG** · Mon, 11th-Jul-2011, 12:01 AM

Shuffle and Fight plz leave me your NA ID's and character code's in thread then!

Mine is revpig.528

Shuffle · Tue, 12th-Jul-2011, 2:23 AM

Reqshuffle.145

also Del, 2-1 over GGfight.

deL · Tue, 12th-Jul-2011, 3:22 PM

Meeting up again tonight around 8PM AEST. Shuffle and FighT may be there, PiG and Jimdiddy are unavailable until tomorrow.

AvPoker · Tue, 12th-Jul-2011, 3:55 PM

I'm also unavaliable until tomorrow.

**PiG** · Thu, 14th-Jul-2011, 2:09 PM

Will be available tmorrow afternoon/night is this time ok for you guys shuffle/fight?

Will probly b on 2nite not 100% sure yet

TAdeL2 · Thu, 14th-Jul-2011, 6:52 PM

If Group C players don't get any more games done by FRIDAY NIGHT I will disband that group of troublemakers and reassign the active participants in it to the other groups, and just qualify 2 players from two groups. Currently only pokerface has made enough effort to show up or even remain in contact though Jimdiddy was on a break from SC2 and if he's back he would be considered as well.

Post results in this thread or directly to me on MSN/skype/Bnet (find this info the profile of my account I made the OP with). Note that if I have to do this then those players have to play all the members of their new group and this MUST be done this weekend as the rosters have to be submitted the weekend after this!

Azure · Thu, 14th-Jul-2011, 7:24 PM

Will/have the replays for these brackets been released?

TAdeL2 · Sat, 16th-Jul-2011, 4:28 PM

Yo I can't update the OP cos I am banned but only saint and pokerface from Group C made a conscious effort to get their games done in my opinion, so pokerface is added to Group B and sAint is added to Group A. Two players per group will now advance and these games must be done this weekend (sunday at the latest), and the 'final group' is to be finished during the week.

As I have said before there's a deadline on the rosters so if you fail to play your games you might miss out purely out of necessity. Your opponent 'not being online' is no excuse as I have at some point seen every other player making an effort to get the games done and if you didn't ask me for help in contacting your opponent then you should reconsider whether you are responsible enough to make the scheduled times for the NationWar games themselves.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azure

Will/have the replays for these brackets been released?

Unfortunately not.

cRSenSei · Sun, 17th-Jul-2011, 6:29 PM

2-0 pokerface
2-0 TAhocus
2-0 ichorNinja
1-0 TAms

(forfeit)
1-0 scarecrow(forfeit)

deL · Tue, 19th-Jul-2011, 2:22 PM

Please see OP for the next stage of the qualification. Here are the brackets:

http://challonge.com/teamaus2011

You can probably find contact info for most of the players here in this thread from their replies (the profiles show the Bnet codes, etc.). As usual, meet up in channel TeamAUS as we will have to get this done during the week with tournaments on Saturday and the roster having to be complete by Sunday.

Shuffle · Thu, 21st-Jul-2011, 5:05 PM

I will be out to dinner until a bit past 8:00pm it is looking like. Wouldn't mind playing in this but if I'm holding everyone up forfeit my matches.

Sorry dudes, just bad timing i guess

deL · Sat, 23rd-Jul-2011, 5:18 PM

Finalised Australia team:

Azz
TAdeth
TAEdgE
nGenLight
FXOmOOnGLaDe
iMYoonYJ
TARossi
FXOtgun
aLtiaguz
nGenMafiA
TASenSei
aLtPiG

In addition to the above players, 2 of the 4 substitutions are used during the round robin group stage to give the following players a chance to prove themselves in the team because they have also performed strongly in the qualifiers.

QxGShuffle

Ninja

With the remaining 2 substitutions the squad will be cleared of inactive or out-of-form players in order to field the strongest team possible for the elimination playoffs.