[x5.RunaMoK]

im confused. each team has had issues outside of the game that have prevented players from playing. i recall there was even a player sub recently right? for azure who couldn't make it? Whats happened from teams having respect for situations to now complaining about it?

Quick Comments

	syfChadMann:	All player subs were made BEFORE the match started.
	syfIce:	actually chadmann we had to wait for azure

[Swarmstika]

Originally Posted by x5_dot

Just make a blanket rule regarding how late someone can be from now on. Done.

There already are rules on this.

"If a player is going to be late for any reason, ample warning must be given to the admins. If the forewarned late arriving player fails to show within 10 minutes of the time notified by the team this will result in a walkover. A player that fails to show within 10 minutes after their match is due to begin (10 minutes after start time if the offender is the starting player. 10 minutes after the end of the previous match if the offender is a subsequent player) will be walked over."

[syfChadMann]

I think the issue is most teams are really understanding and generous, and I don't think this should change.

As I said, I'm happy to be accommodating, but if there is no more methods to delaying play then sub the player. I would rather see games played than win by Walk Over. Its not about winning, lets not lose sight of the fact we want to promote SEA and the players within.

[x5_dot]

There already are rules on this.

"If a player is going to be late for any reason, ample warning must be given to the admins. If the forewarned late arriving player fails to show within 10 minutes of the time notified by the team this will result in a walkover. A player that fails to show within 10 minutes after their match is due to begin (10 minutes after start time if the offender is the starting player. 10 minutes after the end of the previous match if the offender is a subsequent player) will be walked over."
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Why didn't Ecko enforce them then?
If you truly weren't happy about the lateness of the match, then you should not have let them play.
It seems a bit silly to complain about it after the fact when there are things you can do about it.

Quick Comments

	Satu:	Ecko are not the admins, our team doesn't make decisions, admins do.
	syfChadMann:	^ Satu, the opposing team needs to call for WO or Sub.
	Fullmetal:	Prettmuch this. If you have a problem you should bring it up and get the walkover.
	ToRRedemption:	except it was brought up and nothing happened

[ROOTProbe]

I would like to say that swarmstika is speaking as an admin and eCKo are fine with what happened. Every team has had problems in the past, even tilea tonight but no one seems to want to bring that up. We just want to play games

[SLCN.Wally]

Wait why is it the opposing teams responsibility to call WO or sub?

[Inv.JunO]

[SLCN.Wally]

Satu mentioned it constantly before his game that he would take the walkover if he was allowed...

[SLCN.NXZ]

At the end of the day, I'd rather see all the matches played. This time around the issues were because of extenuating circumstances but I think the main reason people are so up in arms about this is that PiG has been late/had issues several weeks running.

I still stick by something I said while the issue was ongoing in that this has only really blown up because its x5 and PiG. If any other team or player did something similar, I think for the most part we wouldn't really mind (both ecko and fray have had some problems with players in the past) and that is definitely not a good thing. Its hard at the top I guess.

Hopefully we won't have any more problems from here on in so we can enjoy the good games and storylines without any controversy.

[syfChase]

I agree with Nxz. Lets just set up boundaries/rules for future occurrences of this and focus on this weeks games and have fun. Yes it's unfortunate that this conversation had to take place, but it's also good because it lets us universally discuss and (hopefully) come to an agreement with a rule-set to cater for similar future incidents.

I can definitely understand some peoples frustration, especially since it's been multiple weeks in a row, but since it was a technical difficulty this week (which is definitely reasonable given the patch) then I don't think its too big an issue to get uptight about.

Anyway well played to everyone in eCKo vs x5 last night, was some fun games to watch! Excited for fray vs Silicon on Thursday!

good luck lawrence i hope we have a good game and you play your best ^-^