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Originally Posted by mGGNemesis

To put things in perspective, this thread sets the guidelines for when a person(s) gets an infraction/ban/warning etc.

I would like to appeal for everyone to not over react and stay calm. Think of the bigger picture.

We are rather concerned about the recent state of e.g. the chatbox and some posts in threads and even some blogs which have crossed many lines lately.

Then why has so much gone unpunished in the past? I've been a part of this community for over 3 years and I've yet to have received an infraction, warning, or ban. I think a lot of people know that I can be quite outspoken and overzealous with my language, and a lot of people are in the same boat as I am. It seems pretty clear to me what's trying to be achieved, and I agree that some action may need to be taken against certain individuals who take it too far (I'll freely admit that I fall in this category). But the way to go about disciplining this community is not to bring back people who haven't been a part of its scene or unique culture for years.

Originally Posted by cure

Now if we can stop the unpleasant attitude that a selected few members of our community have in the chat box, we can keep it. Wouldn't that be a better solution ?

I think the attitude that people who are no longer part of a community in any meaningful way think that there's no harm in returning and enforcing their ideals is an unpleasant attitude. If you want these rules to be enforced, then maybe they should be enforced by people who are significant contributors to this community.

I'm irritated at the state of the current social climate in sc2sea as well. It's gotten out of hand a couple of times, but time and time again there are never people around to police well and with an understanding hand. How can someone moderate and tell what is banter from what is an insult when you don't understand the people who are saying these things? I know for a fact that Chase was infracted for a joke he made last night to ME in chatbox, and I've said much worse myself. If you want to police the chatbox, then go nuts. If you want to have moderation of this community, then have moderators that are relevant. If I was concerned about something happening in the sc2sea community, I've got four options to go to, Nemesis, Chadmann, Eddie or Elusory. Why do other mods even have moderator privileges any more if they aren't a part of this community.

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Originally Posted by fray`FLuX

Then why has so much gone unpunished in the past? I've been a part of this community for over 3 years and I've yet to have received an infraction, warning, or ban. I think a lot of people know that I can be quite outspoken and overzealous with my language, and a lot of people are in the same boat as I am. It seems pretty clear to me what's trying to be achieved, and I agree that some action may need to be taken against certain individuals who take it too far (I'll freely admit that I fall in this category). But the way to go about disciplining this community is not to bring back people who haven't been a part of its scene or unique culture for years.

Just because something went unpunished in the past doesn't make it right. Just to clarify, people aren't being "brought back" by anyone (moderator wise). No-one is being messaged and asked to come back -- I myself have always just lurked about checking the site every few weeks. Not sure about the others, but it isn't hard to distinguish banter contextually (e.g. being able to tell what's banter between friends and being a dick to someone). Again, if you think there's been a problem with punishment, take it up with the mod who did it, instead of saying the mods are useless / not involved enough.