[ToRPandarine]

SC2SEA.com GPD Open #87 - Here We Go Again
Welcome to the fortnightly sc2sea.com GPD Open.
Admins:
ToRPandarine
ToRElusory
mGGHalt
ToRDekid


The fortnightly sc2sea GPD is a 64 player, single elimination tournament.

Date:
Sunday, 27th of October, 2013.

Time:
6pm AEDT ; 3pm SGT ; 9pm NZT

27 october 2013 6:00 PM AEDT

Location:
SEA Server, sc2seaGPD group

Report Results and Queries to:
ToRPandarine (Q&A)
ToRElusory
mGGHalt
ToRDekid

Streamer Wanted!
Stream Link

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Join Tournament Here
This week's brackets will be hosted externally on Challonge!

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Prizes:
The winner of the GPD will be awarded 2 hours of coaching from a roster of coaches and…
“Golden Glory” Achievement

Champion of a GPD, watch out for this player on his way to Master league glory.

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Rules and Regulations

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Tournament Eligibility

• Players must have their own SEA account, playing on a friend’s account is not allowed.
• You must be in the Gold, Platinum or Diamond league (1v1 - SEA or NA license).
• Eligibility for former Masters:
  • Should not had achieved GM in either WoL or HoTS.
  • Masters for at most two season.
  • Not achieved Masters for 2 seasons before current season despite active laddering (ie. 2013 Season 3 and 2013 Season 4).
  • This refers to being Masters on ANY server.
• Winners of consecutive GPD Opens are respectfully asked to not participate.
• Smurfing only gets you a one way ticket to being banned from the GPD Opens.

Contacting opponents and time limit

• You must contact your opponent on Battle.net preferably by being in the group “sc2seaGPD” to play your matches.
• All players are given 15 minutes to contact their opponent. Anyone that cannot be contacted will be
• disqualified.
• If a player cannot be contacted in 15 minutes because of an unavoidable real life event and was able to get someone to contact an Admin, they are given an additional 10 minutes before disqualification.

Race

• You must play your Ranked 1v1 Ladder race throughout the tournament. (change from last GPD Open)
• If your ladder race is different due to skewed offrace games, inform an Admin immediately.
• Random players are not allowed to race pick unless an Admin has been informed a week prior to the Open.

Disconnect

• If any player disconnects, use the “Resume from Replay” feature to continue the game. This applies in the event of a second disconnect.
• If the player has gone offline for more than 5 minutes, inform an Admin immediately.
• If the player continues to disconnect, the opponent may be awarded the match.

Manner

• Pauses should be notified and not exceed 5-10 minutes depending on the reason for said pause.
• Excessive pausing in game may lead to a warning and/or a disqualification
• Bad manner is not tolerated.
• BMing will result in a stern warning. Persistent BMing will result in a disqualification.
• Racist, hateful or excessively derogatory language will result in a disqualification with zero notice and a review to impose a timed or full ban.

Any disputes will be handled by the Admins after reviewing all associated replays.
Any question can be directed at the Admins.
Please be honest and truthful to ensure the best experience for all. Smurfing and/or hacking will result in a disqualification and ban from subsequent tournaments

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Tournament Format

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Round of 64 (Best of 1): Whirlwind LE
Round of 32 (Best of 1): Polar Night LE
Round of 16 (Best of 1): Frost LE
Round of 8 (Best of 3): Derelict Watcher TE
Semi-Finals (Best of 3): Bel’Shir Vestige LE
Grand Finals (Best of 5/3): Akilon Wastes

• Loser picks next map in Best of 3 or 5 series.
• Grand Finals can be either a Best of 5 or a Best of 3 series.
  
• Maps may not be repeated in the same series.
• For all Best of 3 and Best of 5 series, players are allowed to veto 1 map.

Map Pool
Use Blizzard created maps that are in the current season map pool.

Akilon Wastes
Bel’Shir Vestige LE
Derelict Watcher TE
Frost LE
Polar Night LE
Yeonsu LE
Whirlwind LE

We are still looking for anyone from the community looking to help the GPD scene. Apply to be a staffer today!

Any questions find an Admin in game or send a pm here. We will also be in the group channel.

GLHF

[VB_Inter]

Always look forward to these

[Elusory]

Woot, will be able to admin from home this time

[eCKoa`ProzeR]

How to apply and become a staffer?
And will you still be able to play in the tournament even if you're part of the staff?

[Elusory]

Originally Posted by eMp.RavensScout

How to apply and become a staffer?
And will you still be able to play in the tournament even if you're part of the staff?

Just PM Panda who's the main admin. And yes I guess you can, since admins do not have any extra benefits. You don't get 100 minerals more at the start of the game, nor can you auto-advance yourself! Just need to update brackets as you play.

[syfRize]

I guess I can't play because I was for 1 season (even though went straight from to ...) on SEA...

If I can be permitted to play, I would love that
I got accepted into the GPDL by Elusory, so my profile checks out, right? ;D

[Elusory]

Originally Posted by AxS.KnighT

I guess I can't play because I was for 1 season (even though went straight from to ...) on SEA...

If I can be permitted to play, I would love that
I got accepted into the GPDL by Elusory, so my profile checks out, right? ;D

Different tournament have different rules, I guess the rules are just gonna stay solid for GPD Open since it's a weekly / fortnightly event I allowed because it's quite a fun event, wouldn't wanna count out people who just don't fit the criteria.

[NairX.Totodile]

is PiG added to the roster of coaches?

[ToRLuneth]

Good to see these happening again

[iRLpuku]

former GM but now plat on KR, NA, diamond on SEA with 50% win rate can sign up? hehe..

[mGGNemesis]

•Eligibility for former Masters:◦Should not had achieved GM in either WoL or HoTS.
◦Masters for at most two season.
◦Not achieved Masters for 2 seasons before current season despite active laddering (ie. 2013 Season 3 and 2013 Season 4).
◦This refers to being Masters on ANY server.

It's in the rules and regulations

Quick Comments

eCKoa`ProzeR:

But... but.. but.. Puku is nub now :( lol

[NairX.Totodile]

can i have the list for coaches?

[adamhlt]

I am hoping that this rule can be reconsidered:

Not achieved Masters for 2 seasons before current season despite active laddering (ie. 2013 Season 3 and 2013 Season 4).

I believe this reason unfairly disqualifies myself, and possibly others, from the GPD Open. And I will explain why.

1. Back in 2013 Season 3, Heart of the Swarm was still a fairly new expansion with a considerably higher % of players, at least on the SEA server, which didn't have a large player base to begin with. As such, there were more new players, and many of the existing players were still getting a handle of HotS. At the same time, the percentage of players in Masters league was considerably higher than what it is now, resulting in players that would only be at the skill level of diamond now being classified as masters in S3 2013.

2. The current and previous season have been a lot longer than season 3, 2013. With rules such as the one mentioned above, they are keeping that masters league rank still relevant for a considerably longer time. Sure, I was placed in masters in S3 2013, but that was arguably skewed (point 1) and was way back in May, over 5 months ago. Since then, I was originally placed in Diamond S4, and started in Platinum S5.

3. Many players believe SEA is a bit of a joke. Diamond NA is often considered higher than Diamond SEA, yet these players are still eligible, while players such as myself are not. This means that the rules, as they are, systematically allow players that are considered stronger, while not allowing weaker players for the mindset that they are too strong for the tournament.

For someone who only plays SEA, it is very disappointing. I cannot play Masters tournaments as I am not a masters player, and I cannot play GPD tournaments because rules like this qualify me out. SEA doesn't get many tournaments and doesn't have many players as it is.

I am not simply trying to make myself look bad - If I was doing that, I would have highlighted poor performance in recent GPDL tournament (knocked out in first bracket) or lacking ladder results at the moment. Instead, what I am trying to do is show that these rules are systematically disqualifying players that would be suitable for this tournament.

[MrLando]

Originally Posted by adamhlt

3. Many players believe SEA is a bit of a joke. Diamond NA is often considered higher than Diamond SEA, yet these players are still eligible, while players such as myself are not. This means that the rules, as they are, systematically allow players that are considered stronger, while not allowing weaker players for the mindset that they are too strong for the tournament.

It's funny how on sc2sea people say SEA server is a joke (I agree) yet still shun the players who play at a diamond level regularly on SEA from playing tournaments. Seems hypocritical.

Just do this guys:
If a SEA server rank is to be ignored (Especially season 1 and 2) just ask for another servers rank this season and have a certain amount of games that has to be played for the current season on that account.

BingBongBobsYoUncle.

[adamhlt]

I just want to make clear that I am not arguing that people should be disqualified for being diamond on other ladders. I agree with others here that diamond SEA should make you eligible.

I am arguing that the current 2 seasons back plus current season is too restrictive, and fails to take into account aspects that were particular to previous seasons but not the current. Even if a player kept the same skill level from HotS season 1 up until now, that doesn't make them the same league as what they were at the start.

Originally Posted by mGGNemesis

◦Masters for at most two season.
◦Not achieved Masters for 2 seasons before current season despite active laddering (ie. 2013 Season 3 and 2013 Season 4).

This part of the rules recognizes this dilemma and allows the re start of a season to give these players the chance to get back into playing GPD if they really do not get promoted back to masters.

The problem with the second rule is that if you were placed into masters back when HotS was newer, with a higher % of masters players, and a much shorter season, you are disqualified from this tournament. Given the same skill level, what qualified you before as masters now would qualify you as diamond. As this is a GPD tournament, you would be included if it wasn't for this rule.
So, for my personal case (for example), I achieved Masters back in May. Since then, I have been allocated to both Diamond and Platinum. Even if I was the same skill level as I was at in May, I would likely still be getting Diamond now under the current system.

This means that the rules systematically denies players such as myself from playing, yet allowing stronger or equal players to play. Personally, I would like to see it at least stripped back to those who have not achieved masters on the current season or previous season, so long as there was active laddering.

The first rule doesn't affect me personally, but I can imagine cases when this is overly restrictive also. As the rule applies to all seasons, an early SC2 WoL master x2 will be ineligible, even if they had achieved platinum every season after that.

If the "spirit" of this tournament is really GPD, it doesn't need to dwell so much in the past.
I don't believe you should be asked to review each player, but simply adjust the rule of no masters 2 seasons back to no masters 1 season back. That would be more relevant to the current state of SEA SC2.

[sR.Kumo]

I personally agree that if KR Diamonds are allowed, then SEA Masters should be allowed. Kr Diamonds would easily qualify for high masters on SEA, so that's only fair that these people are too. What the admins need to do in that scenario to is make sure that they are masters only on SEA, and not high Masters SEA and at the same time low masters on NA/Kr. With things such as sc2ranks.com, that's a fairly simple task.
On the other hand, recently BattleNet has been placing players in leagues below their skill level, I can confirm this with players from AxS who are masters on NA getting SEA Diamond, and NA Diamonds getting SEA gold. That sort of drop in skill level really can't happen to active players over a five day period between season end and season start.

[adamhlt]

Thanks for your reply. My issue deals with players that are not even Masters on SEA currently - players that were Masters on SEA back in May (and only then, across their SC2 career) are disqualified under currently rules, but players that are Diamond on KR in the current season are eligible, despite their skill arguably being much higher.

[mGGNemesis]

As discussed in another post, comparing GPDs across servers is going to be hard. Even though diamonds on KR would be considered better than a diamond on SEA, another can argue I was diamond on kr for less than a season only etc etc.

The good news is this season is ending

[syfNaMeK]

I think being Diamond on Korea is fine as long as the player has laddered considerably on SEA/NA and is Diamond there as well. adamhlt is right with the higher percentage of players as well. At the start of HOTS I was in Diamond league but when they changed how the percentages worked I was dropped back to platinum

Quick Comments

	mGGNemesis:	same for me >.<
	sR.Kumo:	Someone who's legit diamond on Kr AND sea would be appropriate, yeah

[mGGNemesis]

From the admin pov it's hard as on the other end, there will be players who will be unhappy that they are vs-ing ex masters or even ex gms when it is a GPD tournament. So the admins are trying to be fair with the rules especially when there is a prize involved.

◦Masters for at most two season.
◦Not achieved Masters for 2 seasons before current season despite active laddering (ie. 2013 Season 3 and 2013 Season 4).

This part of the rules recognizes this dilemma and allows the re start of a season to give these players the chance to get back into playing GPD if they really do not get promoted back to masters.