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Unread Thu, 24th-Mar-2011, 8:06 PM BnetId: TAscm.495  Race: Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 92 # 1
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Here's the problem IMO

Mobility:
Zerg: Creep, Nydus
Protoss: Warp in anywhere on map
Terran: ???
(To add insult to injury, medivac speed was nerfed, and atm medivacs are slower than dropships in bw)

Fast army regeneration:
Zerg: Larva buildup
Protoss: Warp in (being very quick) + chrono boost
Terran: ?

Super Strong Units
Protoss: Colossi, templar
Zerg: Ultras, Brood lords
Terran: ??

Unit Balls
Of all the races, the terran mech/biomech ball is by far the least mobile. Leapfrogging seige tanks on big maps is almost pointless, but necessary against zerg.


The longer the games goes on for, the lesser is the chance of terran winning. The larger the map is, the lesser is the chance of terran winning. SC2 is simply not balanced for larger maps at the moment. Terran has in general the slowest army, thus it's ability to be aggressive in the early game on large maps is non-existant. Combined with it's late game weaknesses.....TvX games are usually a near impossible race to kill off the zerg or protoss opponent before they reach a point of having a maxed army / max production ability.


inb4 "medivacs marines a move trololololo"

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Unread Fri, 25th-Mar-2011, 11:47 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: aLtkeLLy.722  Race: Location: Hatchery  Total Posts Made: 264 # 2
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Originally Posted by Starcraftmazter View Post
Here's the problem IMO
I am sorry sir, I have to intervene right here.

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Mobility:
Zerg: Creep, Nydus
Protoss: Warp in anywhere on map
Terran: ???
(To add insult to injury, medivac speed was nerfed, and atm medivacs are slower than dropships in bw)
... Mobility, have you seen much zerg use much Nydus in the first place? Because getting that shit landed/planted is a challenge by itself.
You completely forgot you have drop. And you have Stim as well??

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Fast army regeneration:
Zerg: Larva buildup
Protoss: Warp in (being very quick) + chrono boost
Terran: ?
At this, I think you mean re-pop. That is why Terrans have usually what is considered a stronger economy. It's for you to build buildings??? (MMM is pretty quick to reproduce) Unless of course you are talking about losing your mech army (Which in the first place shouldn't be lost easily) then you will have difficulty purely because of gas.

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Super Strong Units
Protoss: Colossi, templar
Zerg: Ultras, Brood lords
Terran: ??
You have the best Tier 1 unit - Marines? LOL? You can essentially end the game before P or Z gets to that "Super Strong Unit"

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Unit Balls
Of all the races, the terran mech/biomech ball is by far the least mobile. Leapfrogging seige tanks on big maps is almost pointless, but necessary against zerg.
That's why you have strict timing windows you have to hit.

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The longer the games goes on for, the lesser is the chance of terran winning. The larger the map is, the lesser is the chance of terran winning. SC2 is simply not balanced for larger maps at the moment. Terran has in general the slowest army, thus it's ability to be aggressive in the early game on large maps is non-existant. Combined with it's late game weaknesses.....TvX games are usually a near impossible race to kill off the zerg or protoss opponent before they reach a point of having a maxed army / max production ability.
Erm, no. I'm pretty sure if you go head up TvZ, a 200 food mech army is almost impossible to beat and the best bet for zerg is to go for a counter attack


In all, I think you have to re-think your point of view about difficulty as a Terran base on army lol. I left out about TvP because I don't play Protoss at all but if Terrans are having difficulties now, it's definitely because of Map Structure and not because of your army -o-
But that's just my opinion which can be viewed as the crazy cat lady who tells you to eat your vegetables.
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Unread Sat, 26th-Mar-2011, 12:35 PM BnetId: nGenZergGirl.981  Race: Location: WA, Australia  Total Posts Made: 388 # 3
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Here's the problem IMO
No, you can't have your cake without a fight anymore.

MVP said what he did as he is paid to play and no pro gamer likes losing an edge their race had. Potential winnings and all that.



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Very well said.
I myself thinking to switch races. Terran can only win on small and medium maps, it is really difficult to win on large maps where Z can easily have 3rd 4th and 5th. And they hold Z to replenish the army while you w8 to make a marine on racks
You looking to be validated by fellow noobs? or you trollin'
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