[OSPixel]

Originally Posted by fray`ChadMann

That doesn't teach anything - that just stops you. GRiM gives back to the community with his help with wT Weekly. Perma bans are silly.

so its ok to cheat if you give back to the community ? Fair enough.

http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?t=1208 <---- first dot point Anyone caught smurfing (signing up with multiple accounts/playing in a compeition meant for lower leage players when youre overqualified) will be instantly banned. For god's sake grow a pair and learn to compete at your own level.

now the question is to people does a clanwar count as a competition or not ? given there are no prizes

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	AsylumofSouls:	imo it's much worse when there are no prizes. There's not even a point to it.
	breadfan:	I missed the part where anyone said cheating was OK

[Bash]

Originally Posted by FSQwerty

so its ok to cheat if you give back to the community ? Fair enough.

http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?t=1208 <---- first dot point Anyone caught smurfing (signing up with multiple accounts/playing in a compeition meant for lower leage players when youre overqualified) will be instantly banned. For god's sake grow a pair and learn to compete at your own level.

now the question is to people does a clanwar count as a competition or not ? given there are no prizes

of course its a competition, you compete for the prize of glory and bragging rights.

and permabans are dumb for alot of reasons, if we permaban people we lose good people who made mistakes, yes its a dick move but its better to persuade him to keep giving back to the community than it is to say "**** you get out", and then have people making new accounts and pretending to be someone else.

This way he has to cop it on the chin, and put up with people not trusting him and saying "screw you smurfer/cheater" , im sure theres alot of people here that simply wont trust these people again, or not for a long time, but they also get the chance to earn it back over time.

if you dont trust them/hate them for it then go ahead- no one is stopping you, thats okay and they have to put up with it, thats their punishment, but the fact they have the chance to earn it back is their motivation to be a better person, and to learn from it.

/endrant.

PS- i dont know these guys, nor was i involved at all, this is my opinion on the issue.

I do think bans should be longer, but thats obviously not my call

Quick Comments

	Antel0pe:	I'll keep what you said in mind
	NOM:	I aggree with Bash on perma bans
	FsDronesInJail:	We shall have no execution of accounts on this site!

[x5.Revenant]

Originally Posted by FSQwerty

so its ok to cheat if you give back to the community ? Fair enough.

http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?t=1208 <---- first dot point Anyone caught smurfing (signing up with multiple accounts/playing in a compeition meant for lower leage players when youre overqualified) will be instantly banned. For god's sake grow a pair and learn to compete at your own level.

now the question is to people does a clanwar count as a competition or not ? given there are no prizes

He gave back to the community(and will still be giving back) before this smurfing incident. Your argument is invalid. Bye bye.

P.S. The punishment is reasonable considering it was just a small-scale "competition".

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OSPixel:

i did mean if you give to the community before getting caught cheating. not give to the community after btw.