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has anyone read this?

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/co...toss_a_broken/

I completely agree with him.

200 gas for a harras unit that doesnt do any real damage? it delays mining.... doesnt actually kill anything or do permanent damage. 200 gas. 200 gas is a LOT, especially for protoss.

I think everyone has agreed the tempest sucks, and im 95% sure vortex is gone, and the carrier. what in the name of god is toss to do about late game zerg? anyone found anything new? we already had to rely on gimmicks (archon toilet) or a SUPER late game (upgeraded mass carrier) now theres nothing. A ground army cannont beat maxed infestor brood.

Protoss atm is already all in based, its going to be even more so if there isnt anything to do vs broods.

mothershipcore sounds decent from what people have said, but 150 energy for recall is a lot, thats over 3 minutes, youre going to really struggle with energy control with this

EDIT: appears there is still vortex, i thought they changed it?

either way deciding late game PvZ on whether or not protoss can vortex most of the zergs army or not is horrible, regardless of balance.

Quick Comments

	fray`Alpha:	Been following it on the NA forums and they make some amazing points
	Dingobloo:	Vortex is not gone and mothership core takes 100/100 of the cost + builds energy before the mothership is out.
	FSDele:	Vortex is not gone. You obviously aren't in the beta, so should be quiet.