[Another]

cant stream cheat if theres no stream !

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NOM:

lololol

[[TA]LoSt]

Who the ****/why would they stream cheat? Seriously?

[Nv.GTR]

Yep. Norksman pretty much saved the event from collapsing.

[Dox]

You and Linc did a sick job man. Honestly, from what I could tell, none of the players even gave a shit about the internet/power issues, cos it was like, "Oh sick, that means we can go and walk around the expo!" With two whole days to run a 16 player double elimination tournament, the stress levels seemed to be at an all-time low, and everyone I spoke to was just happy to mingle and enjoy the event. As for the lack of stream, yeah it sucks but it's not the end of the world. GESC was in the same boat a few months ago!

And I can assure you, mOOnGLaDe definitely stream cheated throughout the whole tournament, even when he was playing on the main stage. He had a mirror on the table so he could see everything on the projector screen behind him. Kid has no skills at all. Just cheats his way through tournaments.

It was really awesome to just chill the **** out and be a fan/spectator for once. Much love to Linc & Zee for the great job.

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	NOM:	he would use the mirror to check himself out, not stream cheat
	JiNxXx:	<3 much love
	inFeZa:	you deserve to chill out and watch for once!

[NOM]

I liked that the fact they only streamed the finals, because of internet restrictions. its better to be able to comfortably stream when only 1/2 the players are playing it rather than a choppy one with everyone sharing.
and i'm sure it can be casted after the event from replay files.(the matches that weren't shown)

everybody wins!

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inFeZa:

you win

[Baldie]

JiNxXx having not been there I won't comment but from the sounds of things you did an amazing job given the circumstances. Alike any job ever in the world, every project is different and unique even if it is a reoccurring event.

If you have no experience in running events, feedback is appreciated but keep it constructive. It would be like somebody who doesn't play SC2 going up to a pro player and saying you played horribly you didn't make these units and didn't engage here.. simply put you don't have the experience to make such a call.

If you have experience in running events, have compassion for the circumstances he started with being a few days out.

It is extremely important event managers and the like take on feedback so we can continuously develop and grow events to make them better and I appreciate people's frustrations when events don't go as they imagine they will. Just don't make us feel like shit because that's when people start walking away.

You live and learn! If there is any way I can support you let me know!
Keep doing what you love mate. Without people like you and the team behind it, event's wouldn't exist in the first place.

EDIT: To NemaR, although your comment wasn't malice by any means and your opinions are 100% valid it just reminded me of some less than objective posts in the past. If an event doesn't deliver on what it said it would then the people running it have to take the punches that come after.. it's part of the job. So don't take this as an attack against you!

[syfChadMann]

JiNxX, No one hates TLS - their organisational skills of who ever makes decisions about these tournaments is obviously lacklustre. You said yourself that you were only brought in to solve these glaring issues two days before the event. Also, everyone remembers last year where WCG paid for flights and accommodation and no one knew or had their flights booked until two days before the event. There is no disputing the eSports is a after-thought for these guys and their organisation for it is horrid. However, they manage to get the right people, such as yourself, Norksman, ACL and the other tournament admins involved to save their arse. So they do some things right.

All in all the tournament was very well run - I doubt anyone could really stream cheat. It was hard to get an angle on the projector screen and most of the competitors were facing the other way.

Basically, for how things were on the day - Dox summed it up perfectly. I'll add having LoL on right after was kinda annoying when Tgun was trying to play and LoL nerds were bumping into his chair and shit - I went nuts at them tho..

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	ROOTPetraeus:	chad smash!
	JiNxXx:	good post

[ZizLah]

I was at the EXPO on friday,

Had alot of fun at the event, despite the issues with net, power ect, i could tell that the guys that had anything to do with the tournaments and events where going manic trying to get a good show on. I was disappointed at not having some live casting and not having in game sound up on the projectors, but due to the constraints they where working with it's obvious some of these things where just out of their hands.

But something important i saw and heard though was a group of about 5 people, obviously people funding and running the event as a whole where walking into the e-sport area of the badgery pavillion and i heard the guy giving the tour say, "Now this is where people come to watch other people play games. Personally i dont understand it and think it's a waste of time but some people for some reason watch this kind of thing".
He then turned around and led them out of the pavilion.

If theres anything thats going to tell you exactly where we are in australia with e-sports it's that comment. And it's painfully obvious at the exact moment i heard that, that they really dont understand or give a shit about us. Running the ACL at the event was purely a marketing ploy to advertise on our communities websites, with little to no thought or appreciation from the guys at the top funding these events of what we even are.
In any partnership there is always a "you use me, i'll use you" underlying incentive for the partnership to be feasible in the first place and personally, i believe we got the rough end of the stick.

Side note: Shout out for ninja for being awesome to talk to during the day, and him and his mates for sharing a beer with me at the end of the first day. Made the trip worth it.

And hurry up and post the next dates for the ACL, because i'm coming.

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	Fenner:	Ninja is awesome!!
	nirvAnA:	omg that comment! :(((((((( Thanks for this post
	Demosthenes:	Not everyone understands the majesty of e-sports. and not everyone will... I don't understand how people can watch golf.
	JiNxXx:	:( ffs at that comment.
	NOM:	they are ******* pricks. you should never bad mouth stuff like that if you get payed to
	ToR.Arnor:	Thanks for shouting us that drink, next time you're in Sydney ill have to shout you one!

[iM tgun]

Originally Posted by ZizLah

I was at the EXPO on friday,

Had alot of fun at the event, despite the issues with net, power ect, i could tell that the guys that had anything to do with the tournaments and events where going manic trying to get a good show on. I was disappointed at not having some live casting and not having in game sound up on the projectors, but due to the constraints they where working with it's obvious some of these things where just out of their hands.

But something important i saw and heard though was a group of about 5 people, obviously people funding and running the event as a whole where walking into the e-sport area of the badgery pavillion and i heard the guy giving the tour say, "Now this is where people come to watch other people play games. Personally i dont understand it and think it's a waste of time but some people for some reason watch this kind of thing".
He then turned around and led them out of the pavilion.

If theres anything thats going to tell you exactly where we are in australia with e-sports it's that comment. And it's painfully obvious at the exact moment i heard that, that they really dont understand or give a shit about us. Running the ACL at the event was purely a marketing ploy to advertise on our communities websites, with little to no thought or appreciation from the guys at the top funding these events of what we even are.
In any partnership there is always a "you use me, i'll use you" underlying incentive for the partnership to be feasible in the first place and personally, i believe we got the rough end of the stick.

Side note: Shout out for ninja for being awesome to talk to during the day, and him and his mates for sharing a beer with me at the end of the first day. Made the trip worth it.

And hurry up and post the next dates for the ACL, because i'm coming.

Did you swiftly tell him where he could take his opinion?

[ZizLah]

Originally Posted by iM tgun

Did you swiftly tell him where he could take his opinion?

Sadly theres not alot of point unless i have a nice haircut, some good clothes and a whole bunch of fact sheets in front of me. None of which i had at the time.

If you wanna convince the oldies of the scene you have to bludgeon them with the truth and potential for profit and industry, rather then point out they're ignorant moron's out of touch with reality.
If we're going to bring these guys in, something we may be forced to do if the current climate continues, we're gunna have to work with them, and i'd rather not have them feel like i'd shat in their mouth for fear of missing future opportunity's.

TL : DR no, but i wish i could have.