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Unread Sun, 26th-Aug-2012, 5:23 PM BnetId: ChosenOne.611  Race: Clan: -  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 29 # 1
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Make sure to make your own analyse when you suspect someone so I know what you saw. In this occasion I could only guess and so might have not seen something you noticed.
Analysis here : http://fr.twitch.tv/nemoulysses/b/329881479

Conclusion
My conclusion is that myfriend was definitly not Maphacking. In those 2 replays, nothing was really suspicious. He used the information he had and reacted accordingly.

There are numerous proofs he was not knowing was you were doing and making moves to be safe where there was no threat or being often surprised by your warp prism, dt's, army position.

Watch my video to understand my conclusion.

You were right anyway to submit the replays if you had doubts. It's our job to help you make the difference.

Cheers !
I've played numerous terrans, and his scouting was really little, yet his timing is very on the point. Tat taldarium altar match, I had to play REALLY safe and his attack was very on the point. You pointed out that he didnt spot many warp prism plays but do realise, he does not move his screen over to the place where my units are in order to prevent obvious maphack, so he's just relying on minimap. For this, he might miss those little things and he only need to notice the planting of the nexus and movement of the opponent's army( both big spots on the minimap.) Moreover, please look at his win rates, vs toss its really high and he beat many good toss players, but not even once had he won vs a high level terran or zerg. I am not saying he maphacks because of this, but since i have played him, I realise the timing and positioning of his army is really really good, the overall feel is just very different as compared to playing a normal terran player. Oh and remember the 2 immortal in the warp prism at the first map, he didnt scout at all before that, and he didnt move his units out a bit, but just nice when the warp prism is moving to his base, he walks to his 3rd and kills the prism. Anyways, its ok if u dont feel that he maphacks, but can more protoss that plays him post replays up?
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Unread Sun, 26th-Aug-2012, 6:24 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: EU.Nemo #368  Race: Location: Paris, France  Total Posts Made: 752 # 2
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I've played numerous terrans, and his scouting was really little, yet his timing is very on the point.
He scv scout and see the energy on Nexus or the 2ble gate and react accordingly. Look after that the very high number of time he scans during battles.
Tat taldarium altar match, I had to play REALLY safe and his attack was very on the point.[/QUOTE]
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You pointed out that he didnt spot many warp prism plays but do realise, he does not move his screen over to the place where my units are in order to prevent obvious maphack, so he's just relying on minimap.
Believe me Map Hackers always react to those, even by reflex. Nearly always. He never reacted to even one of your warp prisms. He was completelly taken by surprise each time. That's very strong evidence he does not MH.
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Moreover, please look at his win rates, vs toss its really high and he beat many good toss players, but not even once had he won vs a high level terran or zerg. I am not saying he maphacks because of this,
He might have a very good TvP. That's no way a evidence as you say.
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but since i have played him, I realise the timing and positioning of his army is really really good, the overall feel is just very different as compared to playing a normal terran player.
Neither that.
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Oh and remember the 2 immortal in the warp prism at the first map, he didnt scout at all before that, and he didnt move his units out a bit, but just nice when the warp prism is moving to his base, he walks to his 3rd and kills the prism.
lol, I haven't seen this the first time I watched it because I was in his vision and I don't think he was aware either that he destroyed it. I understand now why you had doubts about him. That move is suspicious indeed. But I think he was just clearing his 3rd just before taking it. I think you were just unlucky to get caught there with the 2 immortals in the Warp prism. But that's for sure a suspicious move by him.
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Anyways, its ok if u dont feel that he maphacks, but can more protoss that plays him post replays up?
No problem. delete, Nirvana, TwooGee, or someone else could one of you double check please ? But I will need to be convinced with strong arguments anyway to put him on the shame list.
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