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Unread Tue, 15th-Mar-2011, 8:00 PM BnetId: Santi.447  Race: Clan: ETL  Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 312 # 1
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In my opinion most zergs are reactionary because of they lack of RTS games skills. Most terrans dictate the match because of their superior skills.

It has nothing to do with the game, just the way people play each race.
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Unread Tue, 15th-Mar-2011, 8:03 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAEdgE.100  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Adelaide, Australia  Total Posts Made: 956 # 2
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In my opinion most zergs are reactionary because of they lack of RTS games skills. Most terrans dictate the match because of their superior skills.

It has nothing to do with the game, just the way people play each race.
Gotta be more subtle with the trolling Santi

Then the follow up 'no, i'm serious' post.

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Unread Tue, 15th-Mar-2011, 8:08 PM BnetId: PapaBigBelly.588  Race: Location: Kuala Lumpur,Malaysia  Total Posts Made: 167 # 3
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sorry cruxis i was wrong :P
how embarrasing hahaha
dones do give back 5 minerals

but the number from 1 to 5 look slower for drones rather than probes or scvs.

Zerg is just a different kind of game style. Its the odd one out. i think that Zerg players have to be more skilled about game sense and mechanics as well as larva management and flanking and macro.

I really do believe Zergs need more skill and game sense to face an equal league tier toss or terran player. I started silver as Zerg on Sea. but i started Gold as Terran on NA
As terran, i trash even plat zergs on NA but as a platinum Zerg, I struggle to face up to terran and toss on Sea.

Playing as terran now, i realize that its actually not easy to play terran. However their defences and options and haraass techniques are far more superior. Toss is imba and im not going into that but generally most of the games, its Terran or Toss coming up with the strategy and action and the zerg has to respond to it. Toss and Terran basically control T,P v Z
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Unread Tue, 15th-Mar-2011, 8:12 PM BnetId: Santi.447  Race: Clan: ETL  Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 312 # 4
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The reason you struggle with SEA players is becasue they are superior players than NA, everyone here in lower leagues get better ranks in NA.

To be honest I would say terran is harder to play when the zerg knows how to be aggressive simple because zergs production is easier and faster.
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Unread Wed, 16th-Mar-2011, 9:38 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAdeL#159  BattleTag: FXOdeL#468  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,917 # 5
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Unread Wed, 16th-Mar-2011, 10:35 PM BnetId: PapaBigBelly.588  Race: Location: Kuala Lumpur,Malaysia  Total Posts Made: 167 # 6
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btw im Plat Terran on NA and my main race is Zerg :P

anyway i think zerg is a difficult race to play, especially against Protoss.
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Unread Thu, 17th-Mar-2011, 4:10 PM BnetId: Meaning 889  Race: Location: Perth  Total Posts Made: 4 # 7
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Zerg is reactionary because they must "react" to whichever units protoss / terran decide to get

Marines need banelings
Collosus need corruptors or some other tech as Roach Hydra gets squashed
Templars cant make hydras
blueflame hellions need roaches
mass thor needs nearural parasite
immortals need more zerglings

Zerg is reactionary to these units because the Hatchery is a unique production facility
The hatchery allows all types of units to built in any number, given the correct building is down

Therefore the mechanics of the hatchery allow zerg to be reactionary

The hard counterable zerg units require zerg to be reactionary
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Zerg as a reactionary race is meant to be interpreted like so.
200pop vs 200pop army. Zerg has 50 roach and 3 corruptor vs stalker / collosi.
BANG. Toss dominates his army and within 55 seconds the zerg now has 200 pop army of ultralisks! Zergs racial ability unlike toss or terran is to maximize unit production fast. Meaning they are reactionary. EXPLOSIVE!

edit: Oops, just read meanings post. pretty much what he said!
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Unread Thu, 17th-Mar-2011, 5:28 PM BnetId: cruxis.312  Race: Location: Blue Mountains  Total Posts Made: 465 # 9
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Zerg is reactionary because as soon as you see that 2nd rax you go from happy to angry.
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Zerg is reactionary because as soon as you see that 2nd rax you go from happy to angry.
I personally go from normal to happy instead. My standard ZvT build is specifically designed to kill double rax.
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Unread Fri, 18th-Mar-2011, 11:01 PM BnetId: Makra.969  Race: Clan: HT  Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 200 # 11
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wow, some really enlightening points, it makes a lot more sense now! And i literally lol'ed at ur comment crux Oh and hey Meaning, i think we met recently in a custom, you were drunk and playing toss lol :P

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Unread Sat, 19th-Mar-2011, 8:48 PM BnetId: tFczealjEUNg.536  Race: Clan: RgTg  Location: Paranaque, Philippines  Total Posts Made: 27 # 12
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maybe because zerg has far reached map view due to creep spread
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Unread Wed, 30th-Mar-2011, 2:03 AM BnetId: saplingg  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 3 # 13
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I believe the reason Zerg is often said to be reactionary, is because of the fact that each "production building" (in Zerg's case I refer to Pool, Hydra Den, Roach Warren etc) enables just one unit. This is true for every Zerg production structure except the spire.

Compare that to Terran or Toss, where each production building can churn out at least 2-3 combat units.


The fact that the barracks (with correct add on) allows terran to produce a variety of units in the early-mid game, means that terran gets to dictate Zerg's play, by selecting what the barracks churns out.

For example, if the barracks is sending out a whole bunch of marines, Zerg has no choice but to build the correct structure that enables him to deal with those marines - in most cases, a Baneling Nest. If the Barracks is building many reapers, the Zerg has to react by specifically building a Roach Warren, to deal with the reaper threat.


I hope that made some sense.
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Unread Wed, 30th-Mar-2011, 6:37 PM BnetId: saplingg  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 3 # 14
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Yeah that's true too. Like Mondragon in the TSL3... Totally awesome
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Unread Fri, 1st-Apr-2011, 10:57 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAdeL#159  BattleTag: FXOdeL#468  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,917 # 15
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Because when they lose they react by saying it's imba and their race is hard.
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Unread Sat, 2nd-Apr-2011, 9:31 AM BnetId: Makra.969  Race: Clan: HT  Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 200 # 16
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Because when they lose they react by saying [insert race/unit/map/strat] is imba, and call you a noob scrub
Fixed.

10 characters blah
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