[FSBenAD]

Fusion Slugs Clan Tournament #1
Week 3
Starting Map: ESV Frigid Pass

+ [map pool loser picks no veto, repeats allowed] +

GSL Daybreak
GSL Metropolis
GSL Antiga Shipyard
GSL Entombed Valley
MLG Shakuras Plateau
WCS Ohana
WCS Cloud Kingdom
ESV Muspelheim
ESV Frigid Pass

Meet in Channel FSCT

Best of 9 All Kill (First to 5).
Starting Players nominated.
Starting Players Cannot be .
Losing team picks next player and map,
Winning Team player stays on.
Only two players can be used

Official Thread and Rules: http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?t=5251

Thursday 2nd August 2012

2030Hrs AEST: ToR VS IXL
It all comes down to this game, ToR and IXL are both 1-1, whichever teams wins this game is through to the Semi Finals, the loser will be playing in the Losers Semis and could even finish bottom if TCP win.

Starting Players: ToRgenja () vs british (IXL)
Casters: TBC

+ [Results] +

Match Abandoned

2030Hrs AEST: FaDe VS TCP
FaDe are already guarenteed a spot in the Semi Finals, no matter what. TCP likewise are definitely in the loser semi finals. But that doesnt mean there is nothing to play for! A win for FaDe would lock down their number one seeding, where as a win for TCP could well see them take 3rd and higher seeding into the loser semis.

Starting Players: TBC
Casters: FaDerezyn () vs TCPKerO () (Classified as //)

+ [Results] +

TCP 5 - 3 FaDe
*TCPKerO > FaDerezyn
*TCPKerO > FaDeBadass
*TCPKerO > FaDeVISION
*TCPKerO < *ChaynesOre
Eros < *ChaynesOre
TCPVisual < *ChaynesOre
madOryung** < *ChaynesOre
madOryung** < FaDeWelshy

2030Hrs AEST: mGG VS Team Night
The exact same situation for the other group. Team Night are 2-0 and guarenteed into the semis, where as mGG are 0-2 and definitely in the loser semis. But again Team Night will want to lock down first place, where as mGG have the chance with a big win to take 3rd!

Starting Players: Sneak () vs TNFate (Team Night)
Casters: Mox & Hellee (http://www.twitch.tv/fusiontvsc2)

+ [Results] +

mGG v Team Night

5-3

mGGsneak v TNfate
mGGDrGooSe v TNfate
mGGDrGooSe v raynoor
Maverick v raynoor
Maverick v TNWildSeven
Maverick v raptor
tiger v raptor
tiger v TNmoonbear

2030Hrs AEST: QED VS Fusion Slugs
And the other huge match of the round, with the Group B semi final hopefuls facing off! QED almost beat Team Night (which would of meant no team was safe for the semis), but just went down 4-5. Meanwhile the slugs had a heavy loss in round 1, and had a tough battle with mGG to win in Round 2. On from QED look like the favourite, but this is the Fusion Slug tournament!

Starting Players: Goste () vs Quackpork ()
Casters: QEDPostage (http://www.twitch.tv/thoseterriblegamers)

+ [Results] +

FS (5) defeats QED (3)

Game 1: FSQuackpork 0 v 1 QEDgoste on Frigid Pass
Game 2: FSEagle 1 v 1 QEDgoste on Daybreak
Game 3: FSEagle 1 v 2 QEDBloodmyst ( ) on Entombed Valley
Game 4: ( ) FSBattleToast 2 v 2 QEDBloodmyst ( ) on Cloud Kingdom
Game 5: ( ) FSBattleToast 3 v 2 QEDMazaire on Daybreak
Game 6: ( ) FSBattleToast 4 v 2 QEDFridge ( ) on Antiga Shipyard
Game 7: ( ) FSBattleToast 4 v 3 QEDBourkes ( ) on Cloud Kingdom
Game 8: FSJhedjuka 5 v 3 QEDBourkes ( ) on Daybreak

BRACKETS
http://binarybeast.com/xSC21207130

STREAMERS
ToRVenom & breadfan
Mox & Hellee
QEDPostage
IXL Casting Team

[FSBenAD]

This is the final group stage round. The week after we have semi final rounds, the the final round (Final, 3rd/4th, 5th/6th and 7th/8th matches).

So this round marks the half way point! Good luck.

[QEDjuslai]

Benad you have link for team standings?

[FSBenAD]

Sure do:
http://binarybeast.com/xSC21207130

[FsDronesInJail]

QED vs Fs... winner takes all! Bring your A-game Fusion slugs!

[FSBenAD]

Don't forget games are tomorrow! I haven't received very many starting players!

Also there was a huge patch out, so make sure you are patched well in advance of the start time!

[FSDele]

stupid 'optimisation' of my install

GL this week all!

[QEDPostage]

The games to watch out for this week would have to be FS v QED & TOR v IXL do or die week for those teams

[FSBenAD]

I dont have all lineups yet... you have till the morning to get them in (IE when i get up) or walkovers will be awarded in the first game

[FSBenAD]

Just awaiting IXL's player

[FSBenAD]

All starting players listed! Good luck tonight

[EXCL]

I won't be able to make it online tonight - FaDeWelshy should be on to take my place as captain/team organiser. Cheers Ben

[FSBenAD]

Hey everyone, so just in case anyone gets lost with the changes to 1.5, this is how you find the GSL/MLG and ESV maps.. You need to go to the arcade to find them, NOT Custom Games in the Starcraft area..

So the steps:

1) Hit the Arcade button up the, right next to the Starcraft option.


2) You are now on the front arcade screeen. use the search box in the top right and put in the map name


3) Pick the relevant result from the search, most maps dont have most of the info as they are uploaded pre 1.5


4) You are now on the main screen for the map/mod. Go Create Private Game


5) You are finally in your custom lobby with the game, invite people and play as before
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[ToRVenom]

hey BENAD!!!!

just letting u know i will be palying this week and not casting.. however i will be streeming my games...
Sorry about the lateness .. Really sorry!

Thanks mate

[FSBenAD]

Also note Dox's post here
http://www.sc2sea.com/showpost.php?p...&postcount=111

Please use the above to create your games, do not hit Play, always Create Private Game

[nOtse]

Hey Ben,

Setting the games up like this avoids the game being loaded with previous versions?

[FSBenAD]

Thats correct, blizzard say doing it the way above (which is the same as what Dox's post says), is not bugged. I was able to play games fine today with it that way and Dox had the same expereince last night

[AsylumofSouls]

Thanks BenAD.
You're always on the ball

[FSBenAD]

As a note:

I am pretty sick atm and I also have a 1200km drive to adelaide tomorrow... So I wont be there after we kick the show off...

FSDele will be taking charge of both the FS team and the tournament for the night once I am gone.

Good luck tonight ♥

Quick Comments

FsDronesInJail:

good luck with the move to adelaide!!

[rezyn8]

How does a player get classified as // ?

[FSBenAD]

In tournament promotions are ignored, so teams dont get stuck with no players and since the tournament is only 5 weeks long.

They were BSG when they signed up

[rezyn8]

Don't know that that is actually fair - leading out with a platinum player - it seems counter productive in getting Bronze and Silver players to play when they have to face Gold or Platinum every week first up.

Quick Comments

FsDronesInJail:

I agree with this!

[FSBenAD]

Yeah I was hoping people would lead with lower players, but maybe they had no others availble or something... Considering there is no prize here..

Anyway games are going, I have to leave. Asrathiel is in charge of admin.
FSJhedjuka is in charge of FS

Good luck everyone!

Quick Comments

TCPLemminks:

Half our silver roster has gone inactive, i sent out several calls only KerO answered. Planned to go all guns blazing an

[AsylumofSouls]

ToR vs IXL

ToR		IXL
ToRgenja	>	BritisH
ToRgenja	<	IXLDrowN()
ToRvenom	>	IXLDrowN()
ToRvenom

Postponed until a decision is made by admin on abuse towards our players.

[DrowN]

Originally Posted by AsylumofSouls

ToR vs IXL

Postponed until a decision is made by admin on abuse towards our players.

Lol, Biased.

Quick Comments

	ToRMaverick:	Suipr biased....you for real? Neg rep.
	AsylumofSouls:	Biased? Fairly sure this is what actually happened so far.

[ToRMaverick]

Originally Posted by DrowN

Lol, Biased.

Note sure what Suipr has now done to be labelled as biased. He would have to be one of the most well mannered impartial players in BSG (hence his tilte) and involvement as manager of BSG.

Will be up to the admins to sort this out but believe the intire night was soured with its events and is not in the spirit of these type of events at all.

Quick Comments

	AsylumofSouls:	Too bad you're obviously biased, Maverick ;D
	ToRVenom:	mav, Why are u so biased dude... AHHH DAM IT MAV! :P

[Bloodmyst]

I didn't know it was OK to add Diamond players in our roster mid-way throughout the tournament. Seeing as the guy also has wins against GM players I'm quiet suprised this was allowed.

Fingers crossed this isn't allowed in the SEACL.

Meh, I guess it's just a tourney for fun, shits and giggles anyway. GG lads.

[ToRSpookToR]

rofl what gms alot of gms are jokes on SEA i doubt would get over 600 points on NA...

[positiv]

dude you should get stim and combat shield!

[Mox]

Congratulations to Team mGG! Getting their first win of the competition! Nicely done. Unlucky to Team Night. Good games from everyone, played in great spirit despite some unfortunate lag suffered by many players. See you all next week!

[Asrathiel]

Originally Posted by DrowN

Lol, Biased.

Mate, you're not gonna help your team against accusations of BM if you come in the thread and continue to act like that

[Asrathiel]

mGG v Team Night

5-3

mGGsneak v TNfate
mGGDrGooSe v TNfate
mGGDrGooSe v raynoor
Maverick v raynoor
Maverick v TNWildSeven
Maverick v raptor
tiger v raptor
tiger v TNmoonbear

Quick Comments

	AsylumofSouls:	Nice one mGG! tiger so good now.
	FsDronesInJail:	GG mGG for taking out the undefeated tyrants TN!!! :D
	ToRVenom:	great work to MGG Definatly Deserve a win!

[TCPLemminks]

TCP 5 - 3 FaDe
*TCPKerO > FaDerezyn
*TCPKerO > FaDeBadass
*TCPKerO > FaDeVISION
*TCPKerO < *ChaynesOre
Eros < *ChaynesOre
TCPVisual < *ChaynesOre
madOryung** < *ChaynesOre
madOryung** < FaDeWelshy

*Player classed as
**Sub used by TCP for madOryung
GG WP FaDe. Mado's game against ChayesOre has literally blown my mind.......
Huge thanks to deadpixel and Shampoo for casting. http://www.twitch.tv/deadpixelau
Wondering if you guys are up for a / Clan war sometime next week. PM me and we'll sort it out.
ALso rezyn, Only really managed to get a hold of Visual after KerO was submitted, and I had assumed he could play because he didn't reply to the FB post I made. Half our other silvers and golds have left / are inactive / have exams, hence the sub for Mado. Apologies we weren't able to send Visual out first.

Quick Comments

	FsDronesInJail:	gg TCP
	ToRVenom:	GOOD WIN TCP!
	deL:	we beat them gangnam style!
	rezyn8:	All good Lemminks. gg wp!

[FSNiseH]

In response to bloodmyst, I can can confirm that I was platinum when I entered the tournament for my team, Fusion Slugs. However, As it is getting to the point where I am beating masters on ladder, I feel it would be unfair for me to play in this bsgp tournament (didnt stop one of your players from beating me anyway :P) abd so I will ask my captain to not play me for future matches. I hope this resolves any bitter feelings towards this subject.

[FSBenAD]

Hi everyone,

I will make statements about all the issues you have brought up but I will be out of contact for all of today and some of the weekend.

All players were checked for league rank when they were put down or subbed in, my players were checked by Asrathiel.

SEACL T5 also ignored in season promotions and that was a much longer season. Those who were around would remember that we had to change the rules from 2 plats a week, to three or some teams wouldnt be able to play anymore. For teams who entered with no platinums at the start, this meant they couldnt compete at all, but we dealt with it, we knew the rules going in.

If I started making people play at the rank they are right each second we woudl have cases were:

a) starting players would become invalid the day of the match..
b) team captains who get their 5 players to turn up, are suddenly left with a team that can't all play.

Just look at the TCP game, they had to use a sub to play a BSG, if kero was classified as platinum would they of had another BSG sub?

My whole aim here was to provide games for BSGP level players. People at our level are both really random in terms of activity, so even if you have 10 BSG players, you could end up with only 1 on the night. We also improve quite fast.

The fact remains every player was BSGP when they signed up 3 weeks ago... If in 3 weeks they improve, why should their captains be penalised by losing players. Some rosters arent very big as is

Quick Comments

	ToRVenom:	<3 Sick baller Knows whats up! Good work!
	rezyn8:	My point was in regards to the opening player

[Bloodmyst]

Originally Posted by FSBenAD

Hi everyone,

I will make statements about all the issues you have brought up but I will be out of contact for all of today and some of the weekend.

All players were checked for league rank when they were put down or subbed in, my players were checked by Asrathiel.

SEACL T5 also ignored in season promotions and that was a much longer season. Those who were around would remember that we had to change the rules from 2 plats a week, to three or some teams wouldnt be able to play anymore. For teams who entered with no platinums at the start, this meant they couldnt compete at all, but we dealt with it, we knew the rules going in.

If I started making people play at the rank they are right each second we woudl have cases were:

a) starting players would become invalid the day of the match..
b) team captains who get their 5 players to turn up, are suddenly left with a team that can't all play.

Just look at the TCP game, they had to use a sub to play a BSG, if kero was classified as platinum would they of had another BSG sub?

My whole aim here was to provide games for BSGP level players. People at our level are both really random in terms of activity, so even if you have 10 BSG players, you could end up with only 1 on the night. We also improve quite fast.

The fact remains every player was BSGP when they signed up 3 weeks ago... If in 3 weeks they improve, why should their captains be penalised by losing players. Some rosters arent very big as is

As far I was aware, you guys added a Diamond player to your roster mid-way throughout the tournament. Yet, somehow this qualifies the guy to be Platinum? I apologise in advance if I'm wrong and this isn't the case. But I was told the guy was "added" to your roster whilst being a "Diamond" player. Is this true?

Also, if a Team signs up that has around 10 BSG players and they only end up with 1 on the night...... that's their own fault. Quiet frankly, they need to get their ass into gear and get organised.

As stated before though, I don't really care seeing as this was just a nothing tournament just to have fun (I certainly had fun so thx for that). If it was SEACL or something of the likes, my posts would be coming accross much more aggressive. I'd also like to add that we were the only team who actually played a Bronze player in our matches. I'm not exactly sure how SEACL works, but I hope one player from each league must play.

[FSNiseH]

Bloodmyst, I do believe you're talking about me, the one who got a 3 kill yesterday? If so, I was added mid tournament because I had just been recruited, and I was definitely platinum when I entered the tournament. Also, see my above post please.

[Bloodmyst]

Originally Posted by FSBattleToaster

Bloodmyst, I do believe you're talking about me, the one who got a 3 kill yesterday? If so, I was added mid tournament because I had just been recruited, and I was definitely platinum when I entered the tournament. Also, see my above post please.

You're the guy who lost to the 1 Base double robo Immortal all-in? Yeah, I think it was you that I'm talking about. Sorry I wasn't paying much attention throughout the games..... damn you so addictive DayZ!

I was told that you were added to FS roster as a Diamond player mid-way throughout the tournament. But you were eligible to play because you were Platinum when the tournament started. This I just didn't agree with as in the Tournaments eyes you didn't exist then.

Ah well, all is good then. You entered as a Platinum player and I was misinformed.

Quick Comments

FsDronesInJail:

:)

[FSDele]

Originally Posted by Bloodmyst

As far I was aware, you guys added a Diamond player to your roster mid-way throughout the tournament. Yet, somehow this qualifies the guy to be Platinum? I apologise in advance if I'm wrong and this isn't the case. But I was told the guy was "added" to your roster whilst being a "Diamond" player. Is this true?

You have been misinformed sir.

Our team and subs were all verified as Platinum and below. I believe verification was done by Asrathiel, who is not a Fusion Slug.

FSBattleToast has also been very manner and has even announced he'd like to pull out of the tournament because he's felt he's improved too much...

It is unfortunate that these incidents happened, and i wish i was able to be online to see things unfold... although it seems i need to do a full reinstall of sc2, since i left it 'optimizing' all night and was still at 0% in the morning...

Quick Comments

QEDbourkes:

try running as admin, the new launcher is dirt and some times i have to run as admin to start the game

[FSDele]

bah... got pulled away for something at work, and now my post was late...

[QEDMinotaur]

Originally Posted by FSDele

bah... got pulled away for something at work, and now my post was late...

So you double posted?

Quick Comments

nOtse:

really? nit picky and sour. Obviously Dele stating why he posted what had already been said

[FSBenAD]

@Bloodmyst - Its been confirmed in the thread already, but so there is official confirmation from myself, yes BattleToast was platinum when he was signed up by us as well as in the roster. If he had played last week, he would of been platinum (but he was unavailable that night). You are 100% correct that a team Cannot add a diamond player, even if he was platinum a few weeks ago.

@Rezyn8 - My example there was more to show how much of a struggle it could be to get BSG level players if we started using current league. In the specific case you mentioned, I would love it if teams threw out lower league players earlier, but I understand there are a lot of factors at play

@Lemminks - AS noted above, I understand as a captain, how hard it is to find out who can play, so again its why the rules are the way they are and I know you would of done your best to play a lower league player.

a) How many Bronze and Silver players the team actually has
b) What time their players can actually play (I know i have players who cant play right at the start, and others who have to play earl y)
c) promotions from bronze and silver upwards (those reliable bronze/silvers becoming golds)

There are a huge amount of factors to consider and the last thing I want to see is walkovers or games not happening. If we were not doing all kills, it makes thing a bit nicer as you start a little bit later and all time zones should make it better, as you have a fixed time.

In the end of the day, I had to make a call, and choose what I thought was the best call, adding the two platinum restriction and specifying that a platinum could not start. I then decided to ignore in season promotions so that teams werent left with a side which couldnt play. I dont want to make special case rules or calls on players, because

a) My team is playing in the tournament, my view would not be seen as impartial
b) Its really hard to stay consistent and rule when a player becomes too good
c) This tournament has no prize and is just 5 weeks long...

There are a number of lessons to be learnt and I will be taking your feedback and suggestions on board. I took what we did in Tier 5 as a base and tried a few things to see how they worked. And again if we are too strict on what we allow, every team would have to give a walkover at some point.

I guess at the end of day, why are we having the competition. In my eyes, it soley to give players at our level something to enjoy. Something more then just ladder or BSGs. Its giving them an enviornment where they can represent their clan.

To everyone else, I ask that you try and be civil with one another.

If you wish to dicuss any of this further however I am more then open to it. My sole agenda here is to provide some awesome BSG and PD level clan tournaments. So lets work together and make improvements

To those who have PM'd me I will get back to your with longer responses once I am back in Canberra (Tuesday)

TL/DR - Thankyou for feedback, lets awesome++

Quick Comments

	FSNiseH:	+1 Awesome as always Ben!
	TCPKerO:	Nice work Really representing everything in a great fashion.
	mGGNemesis:	:)
	AsylumofSouls:	Anyone who dares make claims against the integrity of this man should beware the community's wrath
	TCPLemminks:	*slow Clap*

[FSBenAD]

Ok I am back now in Canberra and my PC. I will get to most of the questions and details by the end of day tomorrow, but the most pressing matter obviously is the IXL vs ToR situation.

I will be talking with both teams in private to sort out a time to complete the match before this thursday, the sooner the better.

BM will not be tolerated and the rules are pretty strict on this. When you play for your clan, you represent your clan in every way. You fellow clan mates and especially your leaders, work their butts off to make clans as great as we are lucky to have in SEA. Respect their work and the clan by not tarnishing their image. We are all here to have some fun, lets do that

[FSBenAD]

QED this is what I have as the results for our game last week. Can someone from QED confirm?

FSCL Week 3: FS v QED

Game 1: FSQuackpork 0 v 1 QEDgoste on Frigid Pass
Game 2: FSEagle 1 v 1 QEDgoste on Daybreak
Game 3: FSEagle 1 v 2 QEDBloodmyst ( ) on Entombed Valley
Game 4: ( ) FSBattleToast 2 v 2 QEDBloodmyst ( ) on Cloud Kingdom
Game 5: ( ) FSBattleToast 3 v 2 QEDMazaire on Daybreak
Game 6: ( ) FSBattleToast 4 v 2 QEDFridge ( ) on Antiga Shipyard
Game 7: ( ) FSBattleToast 4 v 3 QEDBourkes ( ) on Cloud Kingdom
Game 8: FSJhedjuka 5 v 3 QEDBourkes ( ) on Daybreak

[QEDPostage]

Yeah I can confirm that

[FSBenAD]

Thankyou sir

Also thank you for casting and accepting the chaos when Dele couldnt sub captaincy for me!

♥ QED

[FSBenAD]

Regarding the IXL and ToR match

The issues at play where

a) The team captain did not show and a replacement captain was not given to either ToR or myself until just before the walkover time
b) The team captain was alleged to be BM to members of ToR on multiple occasions
c) IXL player LateBloomer was sent out as instead of his approved league race of . LateBloomer managed to higher then finish as in the past so this could be seen as an attempt to play a higher league player.

After talking to both captains and reviewing evidence the following decisions have been made:

• The match between ToR and IXL will be abandoned and treated like it did not occur
• IXL have been given an official warning for the incident, the next will result in forfeit
• IXLDrown is not permitted to play or lead IXL for the remainder of the tournament

This decision was made due to several factors:

There was no attempt by IXLDrown to apologise for his actions towards the ToR captain or their players
There was no apology given on behalf of IXL to Suipr and the ToR team
BM is not acceptable and is definitely intolerable from a captain (even if they are a stand in)

As a note all players must play as the races their ladder ranks indicate or they were signed up as. If you wish to play as a different race you must get that approved by myself.

This means that the bracket is how Group A will finish:

1st - FaDe - 2 wins
2nd - ToR - 1 win (even map score)
3rd - TCP - 1 win (-1 map score, 12 map wins)
4th - IXL - 1 win (-1 map score, 7 map wins)

If anyone wishes to discuss the decision or anything around it, feel free to PM me, but I consider the matter now closed.

Semi finals are tomorrow. Best of luck everyone!

[IXLives]

Originally Posted by FSBenAD

Regarding the IXL and ToR match..

Regarding this incident I just want to officially apologise on behalf of myself as clan leader as well on behalf of the clan Ninth Legion for the events that have taken place. I owe FSBenAD a big apology for wasting his time and this event ever taking place, as well as Suipr (AsylumofSouls), ToRVenom and any others involved for anything that was said to them. It was unacceptable in any manner for an acting staff member of the legion to act as Drown did, and any acting likewise in future will be dealt with severely. It's unfortunate that the very identity our clan has worked so hard to build up to avoid is what we're being seen as with a single incident, and myself as well as the other members feel very strongly about good sportsmanship in play and nothing but the utmost respect for our competitors. I hope we can move past this and prove in future that we in fact pride ourselves on a warm, friendly team atmosphere and friendly manner, such as any true sportsman should be.

Thanks again to Suipr of ToR for being so good about the whole thing.

Quick Comments

	FSBenAD:	Thankyou
	AsylumofSouls:	Thankyou IXLives. This apology re-gains enormous respect from us at ToR. All the best.

[DrowN]

I apologize for the clash that happened between myself and team ToR.

Quick Comments

FSBenAD:

Thankyou

[FSBenAD]

Big thank you to both captains for being patient with me and for conducting themselves with great integrity and professionalism during the process.