[syfChadMann]

Originally Posted by ViTaL

why not just not serve alcohol at the venue

O_O
Also, standing for 6+ hours.. **** that.

[breadfan]

Originally Posted by cR.ChadMann

This guy.. this is what I'm getting at..
Pretty sure by now - everyone realises that there was some 'mis-information' bouncing around.. (I love it when people use my name here ..|.. ) But complaining about it isn't going to get ANYTHING done. If you missed out, man up - offer to help out at the event (VaNzR will now get 400 applications for volunteers - 300 will turn up and walk off and not actually help out, I bet). OR get active and organise something else.. be proactive and talk with ACL Staff about what can be done - say, a fan meet for Tastosis at a bar Saturday night and a barcraft over the weekend for those that missed out..
or offer to pay for entry and see if ATP can organise a larger room (I understand this might not be possible, but if a larger conference room at ATP isn't booked, is it possible to upgrade? and could those costs be passed onto the venue attendees? All pro-active solutions that I've messaged Vanz about. If something like that doesn't happen, then I'm glad I took the time to talk to Vanz about helping out last week and hope that I can contribute in order to attend and enjoy this event.

In short, don't sook about it - I missed out, I've booked interstate travel, I'm being proactive about making it work for me... and if not, oh-*******-well.. I'll have a nice weekend in Sydney with some mates, and hopefully catch up with you guys at a bar after the event.

First of all, I don't think blame about the misinformation was being laid on you. It was more a sense that "hey, a bunch of us clearly thought this way when it wasn't true". It definitely wasn't a personal shot at you, at least from the perspective of an impartial observer.

Secondly though, you are right on so many levels. Things have not turned to shit because the venue is over capacity and some people can't go. There are chances to get inside still, and there are possibilities for other things like you mentioned. Baldie and yourself are the only ones who have basically said "you know what, I'm going to Sydney for a StarCraft 2 event, and if I don't get in the doors, that doesn't matter, because I will still make it a killer time". This is really really good stuff from the two of you, I applaud you and you are setting wonderful examples.

Thing is, some people are just vocal about hardships moreso than others. In some cases, maybe people are being repetitive. In others, maybe people just want to express themselves. And I think that some people are being too hard on these people when they do so, not 9 hours after their issue. I hope after they get some rest, get time to put it all in perspective, people will realise that it's not the end of their world.

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PiG:

i like you

[inFeZa]

I think a barcraft should be organised.

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TAriiChard:

+1

[Fourby]

I missed out on tickets (( soo sad, very dissapointed, but you know what?


IM ******* excited that OUR BOYSS GONNA GET CASTED BY TASTOSIS BITCHES

stfu, get your popcorn out and support the motherfucking stream on the day, or im gonna find you and eat your favourite pet.


p.s im chinese, so I WILL eat your pet.

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	TAriiChard:	i will too
	inFeZa:	LOL
	VoxMSI.Rogue:	HAHAHAHAH omg

[Cordance]

A few questions.
Could the venue be enlarged second, third rooms (outside area with a projector and screen) at the current venue for a cost via the more tickets if so numbers and costs to make it viable.

Second if option one is impossible/economically nonviable. "Official" barcraft or other second venue with video link stream possible web cams back to original location. To try to keep the starcraft mayhem focused rather than at home on stream.

Final thoughts awesome work guys a packed ACL!!!!
If anything like this happens in the future, it might be nice if the ticket registration was more a reservation system I know there was under 250 people when I registered. Not that I had any chance to be around a computer at 9am so I probably still would have missed out.
Tickets being around before the announcements of casters would probably help vs backlash as seen in this thread. To be honest I probably wouldnt have gotten one or made a trip to Sydney for it at that point. There where many who would have and there would be no way for people who didnt to throw the blame at anyone ACL related...

PS if there is a second venu organized I would still be looking at a weekend to Sydney to party it up so long as it is organized in a way we could chill with some players etc.

[TADivinity]

Im extremely interested as to how many people would go if seating was unlimited.

What I've realised from this thread is that there are quite a number of lurkers in the community, including those not part of sc2sea.com

Lessons for the future no doubt.

All in all, bad luck that the venue choice had to come before Tastosis confirmation. No way around that.

An encouraging response for the scene though - regardless of positive/negative response

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Dox:

Thanks for the mature and logical response <3

[x5_dot]

In other news, it's Tasteless' birthday on Saturday August 11!

Lets get him a giant protoss cake sprinkled with probes everywhere

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	JoFritzMD:	I will join in the baking if there is a baking party for this
	Maynarde:	TUPPERWARE PARTY! Who's in? *raises hand*
	mGGNemesis:	nice :D
	ToRSmotPokingFish:	lets do this shit!
	Flamga:	AWESOME
	TADivinity:	and burrowed banelings underneath because **** protoss :)
	VB_Blake:	the banelings can explode cream!
	DUCKVILLELOL:	giant crowd happy bday singing at the event we have to
	NOM:	Must do this!

[inFeZa]

Originally Posted by dot89

In other news, it's Tasteless' birthday on Saturday August 11!

Lets get him a giant protoss cake sprinkled with probes everywhere

OMG! We need to get him something for his birthday

[syfChadMann]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UU...ailpage#t=798s

Make InControl correct.

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	DUCKVILLELOL:	haha just tweeted that :D Such a truthful call from geoff D:
	TADivinity:	This now has to happen.

[HuT]

Welp, happy I got my tickets..

[VoxMSI.Rogue]

if i come i will bring him a toy like the bane i made for fenner ok dotty

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x5_dot:

okay! make it a koala-bane :D

[inFeZa]

Originally Posted by cr.chadmann

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=uu...ailpage#t=798s

make incontrol correct.

omg lol
and suddently goat lust

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VoxMSI.Rogue:

LOL ****** goatlust

[Maynarde]

Originally Posted by cR.ChadMann

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UU...ailpage#t=798s

Make InControl correct.

IdrA: "I would like, do anything there for free, just to go down there to Australia that'd be really cool"

[VoxMSI.Rogue]

That means he would do you maynarde

he
would
do
you

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	Maynarde:	Not enough man
	ToRSmotPokingFish:	who wouldnt do maynarde though? dat hair!
	syfChadMann:	and he would do it.. for Free.
	doble:	angry idra rage manlove

[ToRSmotPokingFish]

Originally Posted by cR.ChadMann

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UU...ailpage#t=798s

Make InControl correct.

must play 'Land down under'! lol

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TAriiChard:

TA theme song

[ACL VaNzR]

Just a quick response to this, and a formal response via live stream or video tomorrow night.

Venue: This was organised back in March/April. I have been working on this project since January when we were asked to pitch for it. Juggling venue decisions is a HUGE undertaking in itself. After winning the project I sought out 6-7 venues in Sydney (including multiple site visits, photos & planning). There is a LOT to juggle. Between ACL & Blizzard, we had to negotiate the calendars of GSL, MLG, DreamHack and other nationals. This was all just to find dates! Then finding a suitable venue that can accommodate those dates among many other considerations is a huge battle.

There was no possible way to foresee that Tastosis would sign on (day before ACL Melbourne we found out). We were initially worried that we would get that kind of response, as we get approximately 30 spectators at an ACL event.

As I said, will make a formal response and ACTION PLAN for this situation by tomorrow evening.

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	Cordance:	Honestly I think you guys have done a great job. Its awesome and sad that an ACL is sold out. If only sold meant esport$
	VoxMSI.Rogue:	Appreciate all the hard work Vanz ♥♥♥
	inFeZa:	^^^^ Still going to be awesome and im sure you guys will do your best to accommodate as many people as you can!
	TACeeSerps:	Now that is what I've been waiting to hear all day! Thank you!!!@!@!@! Much love
	Dingobloo:	Good problems to have, GL with it!
	TAriiChard:	<3
	nirvAnA:	Action plan FTW! Great stuff VaNzr, addressing the issue directly was what everyone was waiting for. :)
	|Erasmus|:	props to someone dealing with it properly.
	x5_dot:	nice :)
	pja:	Awesome job, keep it up
	NvRossi:	great great post
	Baldie:	Very well written and professional
	ToRSpartaz:	Awesome good response
	cRSenSei:	F*ck I love you vanz.
	EsKy:	I will support any action that results in my going to acl
	Nandos:	I hope you handle all the PR stuff from now instead of the other self-important guy. This is how its done.

[Bluejay]

Im just glad I managed to get a couple of tickets. Flights and Acom are booked from NZ, ready to roll!

[ACL VaNzR]

Hey guys, I realise a lot of people are waiting on further response from me. I can tell you this:

- ACL organisers of this event have met with Blizzard this evening
- ACL has spoken with a 3rd party to help accommodate 'left out' SC2 fans
- We are waiting on concrete information before announcing anything (to make sure we can make it eventuate)
- All IDs will be checked with tickets. A ticket holder can only retain 1 individual ticket, plus 1 guest
- Scalping will not be tolerated and obviously names will not match up on ID check
- A plan to accommodate for 'no-shows' & also provide giveaway tickets will be announced by Thursday night

Long story short: There will be opportunities for more members of the public to gain access to this event. For those that cannot make it, we are trying to ensure there is an experience that will substitute as best as possible for the situation.

I wish I had more information to give people tonight, but unfortunately I don't. Hopefully this will address some issues at least, and look out for more word from me soon.

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	akky:	Love your work
	TACeeSerps:	Keep up the good work!! You are ESPORTS!
	breadfan:	Thanks for going the extra mile for this!
	Asrathiel:	♥
	nirvAnA:	VaNzR saves the day!!!!!
	VoxMSI.Rogue:	good man ♥
	x5_dot:	great news!

[UHF]

What should the people do that grabbed surplus tickets or for some reason have a ticket they are no longer using?

Examples
- if someone grabbed 4 tickets, 1 for themselves and 3 for mates and legitimately want them/are going
- if someone greedily grabbed 4 tickets but only need 1 for themselves and dont need the rest


(before someone asks, no i only have 1 myself)

[inFeZa]

Originally Posted by UHF

What should the people do that grabbed surplus tickets or for some reason have a ticket they are no longer using?

Examples
- if someone grabbed 4 tickets, 1 for themselves and 3 for mates and legitimately want them/are going
- if someone greedily grabbed 4 tickets but only need 1 for themselves and dont need the rest


(before someone asks, no i only have 1 myself)

You could only order 2 as far as i know.