[breadfan]

Originally Posted by VB_WhiplashJC

How was registration done? Am I going to be offered a ticket for $50 from someone who claimed 50 of them, or is the ticket for the purchaser only and ID required?

There was no registration, I don't know if there was anything to stop people checking out multiple times. But, you could only reserve 2 at a time, and it records names. So potentially, someone sat there for 15 minutes, bought 2 at a time making up a fake name each time. Realistically... I doubt it.

[Snx.Mufasa]

Rofl... already got people trying to sell their tickets.

WP.

edit. Was just a friend posting someones text they made. Could just be a troll.

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[UHF]

I too was one of the people under the impression that there was standing room available - it was pretty much thrown around as common knowledge. I feel absolutely terrible as I even passed on that incorrect knowledge at one point. I also feel that there is probably someone more deserving or someone traveling from a further distance than I am that should probably have tickets over myself

If Dox needs a wingman, I'll gladly put my hand up.

As a side note, the two images below are what lead me to believe there was a general admittance.

[Mayo]

Everyone "assumed" that there was a standing room it seems.

Should have straight out asked then I guess?

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	breadfan:	I think it was actually said somewhere. Why else would EVERYONE think the same way?
	mGGDrGooSe:	It was asked during systems podcast, clearly we never got an answer

[Flamga]

Originally Posted by Mayo

Everyone "assumed" that there was a standing room it seems.

Should have straight out asked then I guess?

I honestly just figure the event area would be big enough for a bit more of a capacity, but as Mayo says, if you assume you make an ass out of you and me (stolen haha :P )

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	breadfan:	Assuming makes and ass out of U and Ming. Who the hell is Ming????
	ROOTPetraeus:	some asian

[pja]

If anyone is selling please inbox me... greedy

[SLCN.Kez]

You know what they say about assume...

*edit* Did you miss the part where he says I'm not sure I'll confirm tomorrow? And if you're so excited and pumped why not just book your ticket anyway?

Edit 2* You bastard flamga ps. are you comin wcs? youre like the last person I havnt met yet!

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	Flamga:	I stole the thunder :P
	|Erasmus|:	Trusting someone with ACL in front of their name is assuming... :O
	NOM:	+1 for Dox NOT CLARIFYING. Stop throwing shit at him.

[toasti0]

Only assumption I made was that no ticket no entry.

I even went to the lengths of setting up text blocks before registration had started. So each key stroke auto pasted in my details like address name etc. The main reasons why I thought this was necessary was because i knew it would sell out in minutes because its the largest cyber games event ever held in Australia.

The ONLY criticism I would have to say about the process is I grantee a lot of legitimate people missed out on tickets because a lot of illegitimate people took way too many tickets than they needed and that this registration event should of had a $2 or even $5 fee to weed out scalpers spamming tickets they weren't gonna use. Because of this now there will probably either be sold tickets on eBay or empty seats not filled at the event.

After sales of the tickets for $2 or $5 they should of took the $ and added it to the prize money for the winner of the tournament. Which would of added $1500($5 ticket x 300) or used the money for other great things. The money isn't important its just that the fee would of stopped a lot of scalpers stealing tickets. That's my 2c keep in mind I got my tickets I was one of the lucky ones.

[inFeZa]

Originally Posted by toasti0

Because of this now there will probably either be sold tickets on eBay or empty seats not filled at the event.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOK6WXb4700#t=2m25s

[Dox]

Originally Posted by toasti0

Because of this now there will probably either be sold tickets on eBay or empty seats not filled at the event.

Each ticket that was ordered is attached to an e-mail address and a name. I suspect people who intend on doing something like this will have used the same e-mail address for all their orders, so it's very unlikely they'll get away with it.

[toasti0]

Originally Posted by Dox

Each ticket that was ordered is attached to an e-mail address and a name. I suspect people who intend on doing something like this will have used the same e-mail address for all their orders, so it's very unlikely they'll get away with it.

When the ticket gets presented at the door what happens? Do they check peoples ID's to make sure the name is correct and the same as the ticket?

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breadfan:

There would not be any reason to allow people to get 2 if so.

[Dox]

Originally Posted by toasti0

When the ticket gets presented at the door what happens? Do they check peoples ID's to make sure the name is correct and the same as the ticket?

I'd say there's a good chance of that.

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breadfan:

Both my tickets have my name on it. So I doubt it - otherwise how does my friend I'm with get in??

[JoFritzMD]

Damn these day-long standing strength legs. If only I had've been more dedicated to wanting to rest them I might've woken up in time.

[Peleus]

WTF No standing room?!

It was thrown around so often by multiple people that the tickets were purely for reserved seating, there would still be general admission for people who are happy to stand. It was clearly the understanding by the majority of people about the event as can be seen in this thread, and it was even said by Dox on the podcast. Why didn't someone from ACL "officially" clarify when it was being said repeatedly that it was purely for reserved seating not for admission?

So disappointed I can't go now, especially disappointed that the biggest esports tournament in Australian history wasn't planned to accommodate more than 300 people, wtf.

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JoFritzMD:

I agree with this 100%. When everyone is saying there's standing room why didn't someone in the know clarify this?

[iMSystem]

Ok let me clear the air.

Yes I was pissed when I wrote that message and I know that no one who 'works' for ACL gets paid. So if you're offended by it, sorry. But I am just as offended in regards to tickets and standing area. Which is already being discussed and won't need me to talk about it.

Secondly, I think it's funny how people are upset at my post because I don't want to volunteer to help. I just want to point out that I volunteer the **** out of everything I do. I cast tournaments, run tournaments, stream tournaments, I have my podcast, I am now doing the Talk Corner for Tt. All of this I DON'T get paid for and have NEVER asked for any payment in return. The 'income' I get is ads from streaming which is at best 20-30 dollars a month.

To have all this covered, I need good quality internet ($90 / month) premium xsplit ($40) registered version of fraps ($40), premium skype ($10 / month) not to mention money I fork out to improve stream quality for the viewers (Hardware upgrades etc.) And let's not tall about the time I spend setting up for streams (Graphics, documentation, what have you)

And I'll be blunt, I only get a thank you for streaming, and 2 or 3 people have actually said that appreciate what I do. Let it be clear I'm not expecting a thanks everytime I cast or stream, and I don't expect the entire community to be greatful of what I do.

But when I want to go to an event that I HAVE NO AFFILIATION with and actually let someone else do shit and this time, so I can just sit and not worry about a single thing and just watch some ******* Starcraft, I voice my opinion and then get a shitstorm of people telling me to **** off volunteer for once in my life as it helps Esports grow. Hopefully you can see why I am a little pissed off.

One thing to note with Volunteering is that, it is Volunteering. You can do it if you please, no one is forcing you to do so, and if you choose not to, there is no backlash.


I don't know how to end this rant so that's it


@Chadmann: I was never going to get tickets. I was fine with standing and was going to let other people sit as I would be moving around most of the day anyway.

@Rogue: I'm not going to stop doing what I love. I actually have so much fun building graphics, streaming and casting. Hence why I am pouring so much into it. But I also like a break once in a while. Let someone else take the reigns while I sit back and enjoy the ride.

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[Dox]

Originally Posted by iMSystem

Ok let me clear the air.

Yes I was pissed when I wrote that message and I know that no one who 'works' for ACL gets paid. So if you're offended by it, sorry. But I am just as offended in regards to tickets and standing area. Which is already being discussed and won't need me to talk about it.

Secondly, I think it's funny how people are upset at my post because I don't want to volunteer to help. I just want to point out that I volunteer the **** out of everything I do. I cast tournaments, run tournaments, stream tournaments, I have my podcast, I am now doing the Talk Corner for Tt. All of this I DON'T get paid for and have NEVER asked for any payment in return. The 'income' I get is ads from streaming which is at best 20-30 dollars a month.

To have all this covered, I need good quality internet ($90 / month) premium xsplit ($40) registered version of fraps ($40), premium skype ($10 / month) not to mention money I fork out to improve stream quality for the viewers (Hardware upgrades etc.) And let's not tall about the time I spend setting up for streams (Graphics, documentation, what have you)

And I'll be blunt, I only get a thank you for streaming, and 2 or 3 people have actually said that appreciate what I do. Let it be clear I'm not expecting a thanks everytime I cast or stream, and I don't expect the entire community to be greatful of what I do.

But when I want to go to an event that I HAVE NO AFFILIATION with and actually let someone else do shit and this time, so I can just sit and not worry about a single thing and just watch some ******* Starcraft, I voice my opinion and then get a shitstorm of people telling me to **** off volunteer for once in my life as it helps Esports grow. Hopefully you can see why I am a little pissed off.

I don't know how to end this rant so that's it

I don't think a bunch of people told you to "**** off and volunteer for once in your life", but I really don't think now is the appropriate time for "me, me, me", either.

[iMSystem]

Originally Posted by Dox

I don't think a bunch of people told you to "**** off and volunteer for once in your life", but I really don't think now is the appropriate time for "me, me, me", either.

Agreed. I'm not wanting to make it a me time and I never want to, I am just validating my anger.

[NOM]

PROBLEM SOLVED.
1. More ******* space for viewers.
2. Tasteless would ******* love his first trip to Australia.
3. The stream will ******* love it.
4. ******* good for AUS/NZ e-sports.
5. It looks ******* awesome.

Or could just barcraft it up.

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[Mayo]

Barcraft sounds like a good idea..

APL, do it!

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inFeZa:

+1 I suggested this a bit earlier. a good Plan B maybe?

[syfChadMann]

Everyone stop bitching.. omfg - you are not making it any better.

If you missed out, you missed out - deal with it.. that is life..
If you are flying interstate then there might be something they can do for you - and that is all.. why is everyone bitching and whining?..

sure, there are no more tickets - why do you get constructive about it?.. perhaps another room could be hired at the ATP for a big screen and extra seating - so you can watch from the venue... perhaps a door charge should be in place (to both main venue and standing room venue) to cover this cost...? or go set up a barcraft nearby.

Ehhh.. you make me sad some times SEA.. :'(

EDIT: I didn't get tickets, I've already spoken to Vanz a few days ago about helping out - so if that gets me in then great - otherwise I'll enjoy a weekend in Sydney and help organise a barcraft - but I'm not making any negative shit about missing out.. that doesn't help.. Instead I'll help out or try and do something constructive so I don't miss out.

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	SLCN.Kez:	Couldn't have said it better myself
	NOM:	+1 for decency and commonsence
	x5_dot:	wonder what you'd say if you missed out
	FaDeBadger:	What Dot said
	iM tgun:	"Everyone stop bitching"? No. Hell no.