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Unread Tue, 5th-Jun-2012, 11:33 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: NvRossi.155  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 647 # 1
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only the initial flight plans are relevant imo as the rest could simply be a guise to distract observers.

The accuracy of the initial attack paths, especially the 3rd game is irrefutable. All overlords are taken out with the first attack path.

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only the initial flight plans are relevant imo as the rest could simply be a guise to distract observers. The accuracy of the initial attack paths, especially the 3rd game is irrefutable. All overlords are taken out with the first attack path.
Ok - take the game against Mafia, at 9:20 his initial Viking goes straight to the Overlord and it looks like hacks.

However, at 6:28 - Mafia reveals his overlord when Chobo builds his natural. Chobo immediately see this as he is moving an SCV to build his 3rd - and temporarily moves the SCV to the overlord direction before clicking back to make the 3rd. It's very subtle and it is easy to miss.

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So when you see the Viking move directly towards the Overlord at 9:20ish - it seems like he is hacking, however that is the last known location to Chobo.

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However, the pathing is actually significantly different - screens worth of different locations and the pathing is very, very close to alot of overlords. This does as much to disprove he is a hacker as prove it tho.. In the replays - are there always Overlords in those locations? does the similarity in play from the zergs explain the similar flight paths of the viking?.. knowing there are Ovies there.

But this evidence does help..
The actual flight plans are so close it's uncanny. The left image was against Mafia - the middle/right images is the FLIPPED version of Enders game. The right image was the initial flight path - however he hits the main and there is a Queen there. He deviates and the middle image is the new flight plan.

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He uses the same flight plans (not paths) in all 3 games - and makes changes along the way depending on what he encounters - one game its a Queen, the other is a whole bunch of other units. However he always does the same plan.

The only game that is slightly different which is against Peleus - a practice game with no bearing and never intended for viewing. The only real difference in the flight plan here is that instead of checking behind his nat/3rd, he cuts straight across. HOWEVER he immediately sends Marines to scout the back of the 3rd after the Viking has left, even though there is nothing there to be scouted.

I think the overlords being there is all coincidental and the 3 zergs that he played all use similar overlord scouting paths. In my mind that's far more plausible then Chobo being some mastermind hacker that has the foresight to trick us to believing he is 'scouting' his 3rd with marines that he missed scouting with his viking and even though there is nothing there he just has to check to make us THINK he is scouting.

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