[x5.Revenant]

Originally Posted by MrToast

There is zero actual 'evidence' if you actually look at things for yourself and not blindly trust people like Rossi

I don't know if you haven't been following the thread, not checked out the VODs that Rossi and Mafia made PLUS all the other evidence that people have wrote, or you're just simply ignorant.

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AxSGRiM:

[MrToast]

Originally Posted by Revenant

I don't know if you haven't been following the thread, not checked out the VODs that Rossi and Mafia made PLUS all the other evidence that people have wrote, or you're just simply ignorant.

I checked out ALL of the evidence and even wrote up an analysis of one of the games if you would have read more than 2 pages. Rossi made the viking video which is hardly hacking since almost all Terrans send their vikings to obvious overlord positions. Chobo also explained his reasoning behind changing the rally point to make sure his third wasn't shown.

Rossi also brought up chobos 'screen lock' when in the SAME replay Rossi's camera was shown 'screen locking' at certain times in the replay. Which also makes it far far from conclusive evidence unless you want to ban Rossi also.

Mafias whole argument has been brought down 'That's exactly what a hacker would say.' because he cannot conclusively explain his way around Chobos reasoning for what is (to be honest) standard Terran play.

If anyone here is being ignorant it would be you for not looking at both sides of the argument.


Feel free to show me any 'concrete' evidence that chobo hacks please.

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	NvRossi:	lost cause
	x5.Revenant:	cause lost
	TAriiChard:	blind
	AxSGRiM:	what?
	Rage:	counter rep
	syfMiley:	dont think so
	xGKingdelete:	maybe try to refute his previous points instead of neg rep?
	nirvAnA:	Agree with delete, respond to his post
	Zepph:	Again, if you don't have top level knowledge I don't think you're qualified to give good insight.
	neKo:	So rossi is a hacker aye ?
	crAzerk:	counter for pointless bad rep

[x5.Revenant]

Originally Posted by MrToast

I checked out ALL of the evidence and even wrote up an analysis of one of the games if you would have read more than 2 pages. Rossi made the viking video which is hardly hacking since almost all Terrans send their vikings to obvious overlord positions. Chobo also explained his reasoning behind changing the rally point to make sure his third wasn't shown.

Rossi also brought up chobos 'screen lock' when in the SAME replay Rossi's camera was shown 'screen locking' at certain times in the replay. Which also makes it far far from conclusive evidence unless you want to ban Rossi also.

Mafias whole argument has been brought down 'That's exactly what a hacker would say.' because he cannot conclusively explain his way around Chobos reasoning for what is (to be honest) standard Terran play.

If anyone here is being ignorant it would be you for not looking at both sides of the argument.


Feel free to show me any 'concrete' evidence that chobo hacks please.

Hardly hacking? I beg to defer. I've been reading the thread from the first Post that Rossi made till the end of it. You can verify it by looking through every one of it and seeing my reps in it.

• The first two VODs show standard viking rally for a Terran. However, the first VOD showed that he rallied right into 3overlords(if not more). The 3rd VOD of him vs Pel is the evidence where he 1) does not follow the standard rally pattern that he did for the previous games 2) totally omits scouting both sides of his base and instead rallies straight into an ovie.
  
  
• Ender vs Chobo on Ohana where he looks into Ender's base: My assumption is that he didnt hold down his screen lock button at that point of time. No sane player will look at his opponent's base without doing anything(e.g. sending a unit into it). Any seasoned veteran will tell you the same.
  
  
• Watch Mafia's 1hour VOD, it does have a chunk of the "evidence" that you require. The fact that you said "Mafia's whole argument has been brought down 'That's exactly what a hacker would say.'" is a sign that you obviously didn't go through the evidence presented to you through and through.
  
  
• Edit: SC2Gear Logs too.
  

I've been playing him for seasons after seasons on ladder(ever since he was YaMaMa), and he's simply not the same calibre as Mafia nor TargA to 3-0 and 2-0 them respectively. Sorry, you simply don't have the adequate knowledge,SC2 or not, to be in this. Stay outta it.

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	xGKingdelete:	the point of this thread is to have everyone contribute so we can make a fair judgement
	RicocheT:	Just because he doesn't have adequate knowledge doesn't mean he can't give his opinion
	TASlowHands:
	Zealo:	wait, so now he hacks on ladder against everyone except you? :S