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SEASL Q2 Admin Map Decision

This is a questionable event that took place in the SEASL Qualifier #2 SemiFinals, with the winner of this series securing a spot in the SEASL.

Iaguz managed to win game 4 of his BO5 series against FlashRevz, bringing the score to 2:2 with Revz to pick the next map. The ensuing map picked was Metalopolis, a map that is NOT in the listed map pool. I am 100% certain that Revz(honest mistake) nor anybody else, including Iaguz and the casters, were aware that Metalopolis was not in the map pool.

After some crappy play and a crappy build. Revz beats Iaguz on Metalopolis convincgly. Shortly after Iaguz realised Metalopolis was infact not in the map pool and began protesting - exclaiming how much he hates Metal and to remake on Steppes of War (joke). ArnorZC the admin was brought in to make the decision, and because he was a relatively newer admin, he consulted some more experienced admins(Not revealed) and they made the call "game stands, no regame".

As a competitor myself, I know just how important a map/ map pool is towards my odds of winning. I also am a firm believer of a Justice and abiding by the rules. A game was played that was outside of the map pool, it should have been deemed an illegitimate game.

The fact that there is no regame is very questionable and sets a very bad precedence for future events. SEASL is not some 25$ tournament, it is a prestigious event that will represent SEA on a global scale that has a prizepool of over $1000. It is not the first time the organisation/decision making of SEASL qualifier has been called into question with an admin managing to completely messing up the seeds for the 1st qualifier which players spent hours on the ladder to secure. That and this current set of events has all came down to the decision of basically "well, its done, so let it go?". Saves time? Probably. Professionalism? You be the judge.

Here are some of the recent examples of professional games that were called to regame.

(1) IPL4 - Nestea vs Squritle - Regame despite Nestea in losing position because his keyboard stopped working.

(2) GSTL - MKP vs Parting - Regame with MKP in a losing position because the computers messed up.

I have absolutely no ill feelings towards Revz, his a great guy and probably just didn't read the map pool properly. Although I do believe it is part of the player's (Iaguz) responsibility to ensure the map played is a legitimate map, I do believe he is entitled to a regame - the map played was not legitimate! This is why I question the decision made and implore the community for your opinion/discussion.

This is more than me sticking up for a mate, it hinders the professionalism of SEA-run tournaments. Let's hear your thoughts.

Rayray

EDIT: My thread title was edited without my permission.

EDIT 2: Some good points raised by PiG, Dippa and Eddie for Revenants sake.


"I still disagree that it should be a regame as I think that disadvantages revenant more than metalopolis disadvantaged iaguz"

"both players agreed to play the match beforehand; it's not like Iaguz was tied down and threatened with a pair of clippers and shaving cream to play on Steppes of War, for example."

"Once the series is done, results stand imo. What happens if this occurred mid tournament, player A realises 1 hour later, wrong map was selected, you can't reset all the games that follow, and delay things for everyone else. I know doesn't apply as much this time - but if you are setting a precedent, you have to look at the bigger picture!"

I take back my aggressive tone, as I think it is less about professionalism and more about, what the correct ruling here should be. Had I read many of these arguments earlier, I would have been far more neutral in my OP.

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