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Old Thu, 29th-Dec-2011, 7:10 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: EU.Nemo #368  Race: Location: Paris, France  Total Posts Made: 752 # 11
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Well, giving time to time was indeed what to do. Let's remember it next time it happens.

I watched the Timber replay yesterday and made many screenshots I intended to post. I had still no clear conclusion about it apart from one move super super suspect (counter of the doom drop before seeing it). Even the 25min "Muta intercept" seemed quite legit when watching it very closely. All that to say it's uneasy to spot Map Hack from a good player. Only multiple replay and very precise analysis can show it.

Evets has admitted cheating. Frankly it's doubtful he has done it once only as he says and analyze of Muse replay might be useful to do. I will check them when I have some time. It's now less urgent anyway. I will do this not to put Evets head even deeper in the mud but to respect Muse call.

Let all remember that Muse then Timber showed a lot of courage in putting the subject on the table. You put yourself at great "reputation" risk when exposing a respected member of the community, just remember the past ...

So I would like to thanks you both for having the courage to post the replays and make the accusation. Big, big props to you, the community owes you a lot.

Now for Evets. I had and still have a very good opinion of him and consider him as a friend. We all have done bad things in our lives, things we are ashamed of. So I won't throw him the first rock. I prefer 100 times someone who cheats and admits it than someone who cheats and doesn't admit it and then lets all his friends who defend him look bad. Of course I prefer 100 times the guy that doesn't cheat at all in the first place ...

That being said, there must be of course official punishment. He has to "pay the price to the society" as part of redeeming himself.

As Maynarde said, there must be punishment by the clan and punishment by the community. It might be a common punishment.

I think Meatex, leader of Fade, and Nirvana, the closer we have to a community leader, must discuss it and decide an appropriate set of punishments. My ideas on the subject:
  • Don't be too harsh. That's only a game after all.
  • No life ban, no more (an no less) than 1 or 2 month ban. We need Evets in this community.
  • Ban him from competition but not from the site. He needs to be able to talk to us. He never behaved badly here.
  • I like community work as punishment. He could make the 50% of the Replay analysis for example for a month (I need some help there), or write some article for TGM or refresh some. Working for others is the best redeeming action you can think of.
As usual, it's only my opinion on the moment, I keep my mind open to other's ideas.

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