[sRFullstop]

Originally Posted by nirvAnA

yup its 5xbo3. if its getting streamed just showcase the best 2 matches. They can be played concurrently so whole match can be over in an hour. atm theres no ace format because some teams can have 1-2 very strong players carrying them all the way through.

What does it mean when there are no "ace players"?

[aLtMrFool]

No ACE players mean that no one can be used twice as an ACE player in any complete set of matches (for eg playing 2x BO3 to carry the team through)

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sRFullstop:

Thanks

[Zealo]

i don't see any real reason why there can't be different formats in different divisions. i get the impression most of the teams in tier 1 will have small lineups, while teams in tier 2 (like TA) generally have massive lineups...

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	Benji:
	Maynarde:	This will most likely have to happen
	TCPLemminks:

[crAzerk]

I'm at pulau tekong right now and posting through my phone.. Not very easy to read everything properly and posting properly while doing duty .

Calling Tekong Ops Room to bao toh you now!

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ZC.EvilSWAT:

Zerg mata lai lo!

[TCPLemminks]

Format's looking great so far.

I agree with Shortizz about using the TCL format, where some matches are worth more points than others. If we have league positions be determined by said points, it creates a lot more excitement as each set does actually contribute to the teams overall position (outside of whether they win or lose that match against the other clan).

For those of you who don't watch English Football the FA cup is basically where every team in all the top three football divions (League One, Championship, Premier League) in English football play against each other. If your clan loses the match then you are eliminated. Also I'm pretty sure the match-ups are determined by drawing, not seeding.

[nirvAnA]

Update: Just discussed with froggy and may.

We might use a 4 player TCL format just for TIER 1 teams. All matches are Bo3

Meaning

Match 1: (1 point)
Match 2: (1 point)
Match 3: (1 point)
Match 4: (2 points)

The best players play for their teams in match 4 and this is the only match that is casted. Each team must have 4 different players for each match. so every week u get to see the ace matches, its like a big show match every week. because if each war had their own caster it would be very hectic and its better have a central casting who just casts the best and does a good job.

example:

5pm TAarcMSI vs aLt
6pm infi vs mski
7pm mith vs spr

so these games are casted.

5pm: Rossi vs PiG
6pm Ice vs enderr
7pm redarchon vs soulman

all other games happen at the same time as the respective ace match they are just not casted. this ends up making the teams choose their "ace" carefully and its exclusive and sponsor swill be happy since its the "pro" league after all and that way all the "pro players" will be getting attention and the highest calibre of matches are displayed.

[Roz]

Originally Posted by nirvAnA

Update: Had a discussion with frogmite and here is some updated information. There will be a limit of 8 teams per division. There will be four divisions, tier 1 teams will be invited. In the event that more than 8 teams apply for the other divisions, applications will be accepted based on clan activity and leadership ability, so the league runs smoothly. Format will probably be 5 sets of 1v1s, best of 3 and promotion/demotion will only be for the Tier1/Tier2 level. i.e No tier 2 team can get demoted, but winner plays in the "pro-league" next season. More details will be released after hearing feedback from other admins and am also still awaiting confirmation if they can run the league but this is what we have in mind at the moment.

Frogmite will make an official news post soon so stay tuned.

Duration: 2 months, every Saturday.

Tier 1

• By invite
• Prizes: $$
• Admins: crAzerk, BakaInu

Tier 2

• Masters / GM, chosen by application
• Froggies great idea - This league was made specially for the GM/masters clans like EVE, IRL lGd who would crush all the non pro teams but lose to the pro teams.
• The best place for up and coming players to develop and make a name for themselves
• Prizes: SC2 Kr Accounts / Coaching
• Admins: Eddie, XanT

Tier 3

• Diamond and below restriction
• Prize: TGM subscriptions
• Admins: Erasmus,

Tier 4

• Gold and below restriction
• Prize: TGM subscriptions
• Admins: Maynade, Frogmite

FA Cup:

• Open to every team in the league
• Prize: $$
• Semi Finals / Finals: best of 7

Tier 1 example: These are the invited teams and an example of what i expect the tier1 league to look like. You can't represent your clan and your team so players have to choose which they want to represent. These are the names i can think off from the top of my head

xGking - mafia, jazbas, iaguz, light + ngen
TArcMSI - rossi, deth, voices, pinder + TA
SQLT - ninja, hut, sensei, infeza, yaaaang
inFi - targa, iceiceice, rev, muse, roz, jinx
aLt - pig, jimdiddy, nirvana, shortizz, mrfool, yoonyj, bielsko, han, souj, dementia
Mski - enderr, jabito, waningmoon, pobbes
MiTH - redarchon, maya, fah, jump
SPR - soulman, sungin, soonhee, master, rapz

Still uncertain on what to do with glade/tgun but we definitely want them playing in this league. I was thinking of letting them join MiTH or Mski for season 1 to even the field, but there probably is a more refined solution.

gimme jazbas and redarchon back!

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TAEdgE:

even you leave me off amsi :(

[nirvAnA]

if mith decline their spot you can pick up RA! ^_^
dont think you can get jazbas back unless he leaves xGking

[ToRDeathsFang]

Tier 1 should as mentioned be for the top sponsored teams like xG, arcMSI, Mski etc etc where all the best players clash and that's where most of the great games will be coming from. But some of the focus should also be for the up-and-coming players.

Most of these up-and-coming players aren't in a sponsored team, because they haven't been able to shine yet, but are in a clan. Tier 2 should be where the up-and-coming players of a clan play to try and make themselves shine, while the top players who have sponsored teams and are in a clan as well can compete in Tier 1.

[TCPLemminks]

Just a quick question.

I'm going to assume that the SC2SEA Clan League Open is also using the BO5/7 1v1 format: This means that teams will require a minimum of 5/7 players and looking at some of the Tier 1 rosters, a few of them currently don't have enough players to support this.

[syfChadMann]

Originally Posted by TCPLemminks

Just a quick question.

I'm going to assume that the SC2SEA Clan League Open is also using the BO5/7 1v1 format: This means that teams will require a minimum of 5/7 players and looking at some of the Tier 1 rosters, a few of them currently don't have enough players to support this.

I'd say the Open league would have the options of pro teams combining with each other or other clans...?

Anyway, This whole thing looks amazing!
Can't wait!.. SEA eSports - its about god damn time!

[nirvAnA]

see my post above lemminks! gonna just need 4 players per week for Tier1, which uses a different format then the other tiers

[AxSGRiM]

Really pumped for this, I want to finally win some matches for nRv

[TCPLemminks]

Originally Posted by nirvAnA

see my post above lemminks! gonna just need 4 players per week for Tier1, which uses a different format then the other tiers

I meant for the FA cup style (which I'm calling the SC2SEA Clan Open).
Since it's elimination style instead of points, teams will need a minimum of 7 players. Unless you want to make it use the points systm as well.

[Frogmite]

For the "FA cup" (i think SEA Clan Cup sounds better ) i suppose the format will be the same as Tier 1. So only four players will be needed to play in it. The Tier 1 teams will be seeded.

And yeah, i have the feeling it will be awesome. I hope now that a lot of teams will register. The registration thread is still in the oven, but it already smells good.

[crAzerk]

Originally Posted by Frogmite

SEA Clan Cup

Ewww so it's going to be called 'SEA C C '? loloolol

[Zealo]

i guess 2v2 has become unpopular enough it's at the point it's not even considered for inclusion in clan leagues any more

[deL]

Originally Posted by Zealo

i guess 2v2 has become unpopular enough it's at the point it's not even considered for inclusion in clan leagues any more

It's just a stupid format and always was it was much better in BW and even WC3.

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	cRSenSei:	no
	TAavanar:	counter rep because del is right

[ToR.Arnor]

Originally Posted by Roz

gimme jazbas and redarchon back!

He was ours 1st (and still is ours) :P

[Zealo]

Originally Posted by TAdeL

It's just a stupid format and always was it was much better in BW and even WC3.

well i still love it, much more dynamic than 1v1. how was it different in those other games? (aside from resources not being send-able in BW)

(PM if this is taking the thread too far off topic)