[deL]

Originally Posted by Fadey

Love the positive rep from pickleweasle in there.... considering how i got about 3 pages of BM him from saying how noob I am for being in TA / I would be bronze if i wasnt protoss and i didnt even speak to him besides the gl hf but he kept going even after the game lol.

Similar experiences with pickleweasel.

Anyway I am against these threads bringing what is said between two players in a private game into a public forum without any purpose other than to take things out of context and humiliate people. If you make a thread with well-known bad manner/reputation players to keep an eye on (for clans considering recruiting them, etc.) such as ZanooKu that's fine but this doesn't really contribute anything.

[TAEdgE]

Originally Posted by |Erasmus|

@Edge: wow, really. I just said other people like Potthead, who I replied to, should not just wave away BM 'because it's from someone on TA'. And I just said that it shouldn't happen for any organisation. Potthead is not even from TA. I did not try and say anyone from TA had that mentality.

Yes i know that it was more to Potthead, but i just recall back to the WCG/blizzcon incident and i just see that same sort of deep down annoyance in your post. My bad for taking you the wrong way. I am more annoyed by other things but gave you bad rep, sorry!

[deL]

Originally Posted by ZergGirl

deL's comment was nice. That is what I define as being nice.

But I'm always nice to everyone so that doesn't count

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TABottles:

You're right (2 out of my 3 heads agree)

[wTlzq]

yeah bad experiences in CW with Nerve, they had a player Manner mules and Manner CCs in multiple games. When we request the player to stop, his clanmates blatantly supported him and said its to "ask" the opponent to leave the game.

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	TAScarecrow:	just part of the game
	ROOTPetraeus:	WN representing.
	aLtShortizz:	Whats wrong with that? Alot of players do that even in the GM league.
	deL:	Too sensitive!
	TAEdarus:	May I buy a vowel? No, your name cannot...
	TAavanar:	grow a pair...
	AxSGRiM:	Agree with Shortizz, it's not like anyone was like HERO NO MORE MANNER NEXUS when he trashed PainUser in MLG
	TCPKiaSu:	dude everyone does this, it's not bm. even pros do it for fun stop taking things so seriously
	Flamga:	It can feel that way in game, but I will agree that the game was well over before then :( sorry that it made you feel that way though

[ZergGirl]

Originally Posted by TAdeL

But I'm always nice to everyone so that doesn't count

You have dodged me for over a week now, that's not nice.
Infact, FU U R SO BM TO ME!

[syfChadMann]

Well ain't this the productive thread?... most people commenting in here are adults.. and learnt to deal with petty name calling many years ago (I hope -_-).. If someone manner mules you, proxy nexus or what ever.. deal with it. its not a big deal... if someone says, you so noob.. learn to play.. etc.. deal with it.. I don't get that people actually get offended by that.. so, who cares if some noob thinks your a noob?.. (Santi will call them a noob back for you, I'm sure)...

Regardless, who cares if someone types shit at you.. unless they overstep the boundaries and use racism or make real threats - then there is no need to care, nor give them your time by posting a thread about how someone raged at you. or, that they gave you the ..|..
BM is an aspect of the game to some aspect - some people use it to get a mental edge against their opposition (ala CombatEX)...

While the SC2 community upholds manner and all that good stuff - those that BM don't deserve your time.. just ignore them and build a bridge. Bringing it up in forums is just a form of finger pointing from one persons perspective... if I get 6pooled or cannon rushed and the guy doing it says they are too good for me.. and I should learn to play.. i'll bm them for awhile.. just to let them know that what they are doing does not infact take much skill. But if they then go posting saying "OHHH ChadMann told me I need to learn to play and he was really BM - what a ***" then the whole story isn't understood. And the poster themselves is being BM overall in the community by trying to denigrate my name in the community... Which takes the BM (imo) further than just 1 to 1..

HOWEVER, if someone really is a (see-you-next-tuesday) and starts racial BM or physical threats over and above what is expected when someone just rages cause they lost a stupid game... then yeah.. perhaps there is reason to say - Hey, this guy is a bit of a douche bag. (ie Zanooku/Ziek).

Anyway, this thread really doesn't solve anything and should just go quietly into oblivion.
gg

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	neon:	in Chad we trust.
	krycek:	in chad we trust
	deL:	What Would Chad Do?
	mGGDaedalus:	BMception.. we have to go deeper!
	ZC.EvilSWAT:	The Chad is great
	Maynarde:	I love it when you grace us with your presence
	TCPKiaSu:

[Snx.FigJig]

Originally Posted by lzq

yeah bad experiences in CW with Nerve, they had a player Manner mules and Manner CCs in multiple games. When we request the player to stop, his clanmates blatantly supported him and said its to "ask" the opponent to leave the game.

I don't want to start any bad blood between clans but there is really nothing wrong with this, it happens all the time, even in GSL. You can't request a player to stop building CCs where they want when they want, who knows, the cockiness could one day bring you back into a game and that player will be shamed to oblivion. If he was BMing like in chat I can understand and would take action, but not this.

You've complained to several people, and now on SC2SEA about this, you just need to get over it, it's a part of the game.

Edit: Particularly to deL and Fadey, yeah I used to BM heaps but I don't anymore, I regret that I was like that and I have learnt from it and stopped. I have nothing against TA anymore and actually consider TA to be the top clan on SEA at the moment with their new members. Also, I apologize to anyone else I may have BM'd in the past.

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TCPKiaSu:

for the apology!

[syfMiley]

Originally Posted by ChadMann

"OHHH ChadMann told me I need to learn to play and he was really BM - what a ***"

gg

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	TAEdgE:
	syfChadMann:	hahahaa wp sir
	ToRDjvillian:
	ZC.EvilSWAT:	AAWWWWWW SNAP

[wTlzq]

Originally Posted by nRvPickleWeasel

I don't want to start any bad blood between clans but there is really nothing wrong with this, it happens all the time, even in GSL. You can't request a player to stop building CCs where they want when they want, who knows, the cockiness could one day bring you back into a game and that player will be shamed to oblivion. If he was BMing like in chat I can understand and would take action, but not this.

You've complained to several people, and now on SC2SEA about this, you just need to get over it, it's a part of the game.

Edit: Particularly to deL and Fadey, yeah I used to BM heaps but I don't anymore, I regret that I was like that and I have learnt from it and stopped. I have nothing against TA anymore and actually consider TA to be the top clan on SEA at the moment with their new members. Also, I apologize to anyone else I may have BM'd in the past.

fyi, i have only requested for the player to stop in your chat channel once. Do not assume that i rant off. and i will apologize if i seem childish, i will stop commenting .

[TAScarecrow]

Someone giving you the finger on the internet is hardly threadworthy. Grow up. TA is just as mannered as any other clan, there's just more of us :P

I've reprimanded a couple of our players for racism/excessive raging in the past but never for anything this mild.

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	krycek:	this^^
	deL:	,,|,,
	ZergGirl:	,,|,, - you beat me 1v1 once :(
	nard:	+1 for "there's just more of us" lol
	ROOTPetraeus:

[syfChadMann]

Originally Posted by TAMiLes

gg

LOL this is a perfect example of what I mean.. A joke between Miles and I during a few practice games (note - I'm playing zerg... badly.. ) could be seen as me being BM.. when I wasn't....

[TAEdgE]

Originally Posted by Scarecrow

Someone giving you the finger on the internet is hardly threadworthy. Grow up. TA is just as mannered as any other clan, there's just more of us :P

I've reprimanded a couple of our players for racism/excessive raging in the past but never for anything this mild.

I just hope twinkle toes knows this was streamed and salvation knew people saw it anyway, also it's harmless. Love the attempts to counter-'rep train' when we just laughed and said let's type 5 characters in response to an unneeded post.

[Snx.FigJig]

Originally Posted by lzq

fyi, i have only requested for the player to stop in your chat channel once. Do not assume that i rant off. and i will apologize if i seem childish, i will stop commenting .

Just had some people tell me of it so I assumed you messaged several people, they all probably just saw it in the same channel, sorry.

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	ROOTPetraeus:	You -1 me, I -1 you.
	sRFullstop:	Counter!

[ROOTPetraeus]

Originally Posted by Scarecrow

Grow up

Originally Posted by nRvPickleWeasel

you just need to get over it,

not helpful guys ):
I think this thread isn't a very good idea. Seems to be bringing out the worst in people which is a real shame.

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	Snx.FigJig:	Only including snippets of the post, out of context, scarecrow wasn't BMing at all.
	deL:	:\
	TAScarecrow:	that's my good side!
	AxSGRiM:	Doritos

[aLtShortizz]

Posting a topic about someone being ''BM'' to you on ladder especially with no Screenshots is a a lil over the top. He gave you a ''..!..'' thats all, theres no need to post such things unless it involves racism or personal attacks.

I do feel that, the rep train thing is a little annoying hence the Positive reps!

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Snx.FigJig:

[TAEdgE]

Originally Posted by aLtShortizz

Posting a topic about someone being ''BM'' to you on ladder especially with no Screenshots is a a lil over the top. He gave you a ''..!..'' thats all, theres no need to post such things unless it involves racism or personal attacks.

I do feel that, the rep train thing is a little annoying hence the Positive reps!

What the hell? Look at the hypocritical counter rep-train with more positive reps. Why does he deserve positive rep for such a bad post? To counter act a few TA members mocking the post with an inside joke?

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ROOTPetraeus:

PickleWeasel taking sides.

[ROOTPetraeus]

Originally Posted by Petraeus

Only including snippets of the post, out of context, scarecrow wasn't BMing at all.

Out of context? LOL. Scarecrow's quote was a full sentence and the rest of the post didn't exactly contradict its meaning.

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	PiG:	no
	TAavanar:	just stop making yourself look even worse

[aLtShortizz]

Originally Posted by EdgE

What the hell? Look at the hypocritical counter rep-train with more positive reps. Why does he deserve positive rep for such a bad post? To counter act a few TA members mocking the post with an inside joke?

Id say the positive rep train started as an counteract to the Negative ones, at least it was for me. Or maybe they have an inside joke themselves too =P. Nothing personal towards you guys, you know i love you!

[CHoBo(kice)]

I BM but usually in a language nobody can understand

[iM yang]

this thread is full of stupid

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	ROOTPetraeus:	Couldn't have put it better myself.
	TAEdgE:	Hey you're squishy's mate
	deL:	Only when you arrived :)