[cRSenSei]

no dippa, i mean the big announcement update is so shit.

[Dox]

Originally Posted by sAint

no dippa, i mean the big announcement update is so shit.

Sorry I don't understand?

[TAScarecrow]

Having a situation where players like Targa can compete in qualifiers for prizes and knock out potential WCG reps before the ro2/ro4 seems like the wrong way to go imo

[dippa]

Originally Posted by Scarecrow

Having a situation where players like Targa can compete in qualifiers for prizes and knock out potential WCG reps before the ro2/ro4 seems like the wrong way to go imo

this.

wcg qualifiers for starcraft 2, online or off, are guaranteed a large enough support that we don't need to bolster the profile of the event by adding skilled foreigners.

targa can't represent australia anyway, so he shouldn't be allowed to compete in a competition that is strictly designed to select that representative - and it's not like we need the extra players to fill out the bracket.

(just using targa as an example here, but it applies to all non-aus citizens)

[r0cKy]

Well howdy to everyone.

For those that don't know who i am ... I'm Chris "r0cKy" for those that do know who i am ... I'm Chris "r0cKy"

I'm working with the team @ tls to produce the WCG AU 2011 program and we have people like Dox helping us out by being a Community Representitive for WCG AU

So ... to set a few things straight so we are all on the same page.

Who can participant in Quals ... what you guys have mentioned is correct, to represent Australia in Korea in December you do need to be an Australian Citzen, i'm not 100% sure on the permant resident, but i believe that if you qualify for an Australian Passport, you should technically be allowed to qualify for WCG.

I have put the question back to the team @ tls regarding this and i'll keep you all posted about it

Prizes, i know this is a saw spot with most people, we are trying to work out what was promised to communities so we can ensure we don't provide the, i'm aware that people are still waiting, and i believe that the tls team have the cash ready, so i believe some kind of update out of them this week is possible, but i'll confirm that as soon as i can.

Online or LAN based Quals - this isn't confirmed, right now its just an idea, but i'm interested to know what everyone thinks about this kind of stuff, i've been using Dox to find out what he thinks, but if others want to also put their two cents in ... go for it

So yeah ... i'm hoping to have more news and some announcements regarding the Online vs Offline

[Benji]

Originally Posted by r0cKy

Well howdy to everyone.

For those that don't know who i am ... I'm Chris "r0cKy" for those that do know who i am ... I'm Chris "r0cKy"

I'm working with the team @ tls to produce the WCG AU 2011 program and we have people like Dox helping us out by being a Community Representitive for WCG AU

So ... to set a few things straight so we are all on the same page.

Who can participant in Quals ... what you guys have mentioned is correct, to represent Australia in Korea in December you do need to be an Australian Citzen, i'm not 100% sure on the permant resident, but i believe that if you qualify for an Australian Passport, you should technically be allowed to qualify for WCG.

I have put the question back to the team @ tls regarding this and i'll keep you all posted about it

Prizes, i know this is a saw spot with most people, we are trying to work out what was promised to communities so we can ensure we don't provide the, i'm aware that people are still waiting, and i believe that the tls team have the cash ready, so i believe some kind of update out of them this week is possible, but i'll confirm that as soon as i can.

Online or LAN based Quals - this isn't confirmed, right now its just an idea, but i'm interested to know what everyone thinks about this kind of stuff, i've been using Dox to find out what he thinks, but if others want to also put their two cents in ... go for it

So yeah ... i'm hoping to have more news and some announcements regarding the Online vs Offline

You already know that players are awaiting their prizes from the first event, so I am sure you'll follow that up, just wanted to note that this is a relatively important point.

The main question I have is details on the final 2 events, location, times etc. Players WILL travel interstate to qualify for WCG and they need a scheudule to organize the trip, If the player is required to start at 2pm, he can fly in the morning etc, and that kinda stuff needs to be made public pretty soon if the Melbourne event is in 2 weeks.

Online vs Offline, An online qualifier for players that are simply unable to attend any of the events (WA/NT/Regional players, as well as players like Tgun who were overseas at the time competing in Korea) would be good.

If you still have room, I am of the opinion that Offline events are far and away better. Theres more pressure, the players are in an unfamiliar environment and it replicates the conditions they are expected to play at the National Finals and in Korea.

[r0cKy]

Originally Posted by Benji

You already know that players are awaiting their prizes from the first event, so I am sure you'll follow that up, just wanted to note that this is a relatively important point.

Absolutly its important, and we are trying to resolve this issue as best we can! So all i ask is you guys don't beat me too hard for it, NO AXES (points at Iaguz)

Originally Posted by Benji

The main question I have is details on the final 2 events, location, times etc. Players WILL travel interstate to qualify for WCG and they need a scheudule to organize the trip, If the player is required to start at 2pm, he can fly in the morning etc, and that kinda stuff needs to be made public pretty soon if the Melbourne event is in 2 weeks.

Its a valid question, and it requires a valid repsonse, we are still waiting for venues to be confirmed, this has proven to be a near impossible task! but rest assured, that information is coming, it will be provided once it can be!

Originally Posted by Benji

Online vs Offline, An online qualifier for players that are simply unable to attend any of the events (WA/NT/Regional players, as well as players like Tgun who were overseas at the time competing in Korea) would be good.

If you still have room, I am of the opinion that Offline events are far and away better. Theres more pressure, the players are in an unfamiliar environment and it replicates the conditions they are expected to play at the National Finals and in Korea.

I personally being a LAN style guy think Offline is much better, but it also depends on where it is held, smaller venues create more issues cause we want to fit in as much as possible ... but i appreciate your feedback.

[TargA]

so.. can non-australians participate in the qualifier and qualify for the national event?

and for the people using me as an example.. if people in melbourne cant beat me they will have no chance at all of qualifying for korea.. same goes for the national event.

edit:
I assume there will be lower bracket at both events anyways.

edit 2: u can also participate in the norwegian qualifier, there's about 5k$ up for grabs : ) gogo scarecrow and dippa

[Benji]

Originally Posted by TargA

and for the people using me as an example.. if people in melbourne cant beat me they will have no chance at all of qualifying for korea.. same goes for the national event.

Half of Sydney is coming down, there will be a ton of competition :P

[TargA]

yup i know..

[cRSenSei]

Offline > Online.

Completely stops any chance of "smurfing" and "stream cheating".

A LOT of players struggle to play at offline LAN events as they are so use to online play only (there is a huge difference being on a stage etc..)

The world finals are held offline at a LAN, therefore we should qualify through a LAN environment.

In saying that, an online event is better than none.

[r0cKy]

Okay ... Dox ... can update the OP

the offical quote from tls is

If you have an Australian Passport, and have signed the tls indemnity form you are eligable to represent Australia in the WCG 2011 International event in Korea

Originally Posted by sAint

Offline > Online.

Thanks Saint

[TargA]

didnt answer my question : /

[r0cKy]

Originally Posted by TargA

didnt answer my question : /

do you have an Australian Passport?

[TargA]

no, but i guess that was kinda obvious since 2 other guys used me as an example as well as me asking 2 times in the thread regarding non-australians partcipating in the qualifier.

[syfMiley]

Originally Posted by Benji

Half of Sydney is coming down, there will be a ton of competition :P

Is Big Benji coming down?

[Nvdeth]

i prefer offline -> online events, but as far as im aware there arent even any decent venues in or around melbourne with space/room for many people that can run SC2 smoothly during big battles.. its really bad to play at venues when the game struggles to get above 10FPS while you're trying to split marines at 200/200.

[deL]

Originally Posted by TargA

and for the people using me as an example.. if people in melbourne cant beat me they will have no chance at all of qualifying for korea.. same goes for the national event.

That's not stopping you from 2base zerg imba gaying someone out of a deserving spot though.

Originally Posted by sAint

Offline > Online.

Definitely, and the points about having an offline event to qualify for a major offline tournament is very valid. For example, you wouldn't have a team tournament where teams submit a lineup of 5 individual players who play bo3 like in the Nation Wars, and then for the semi-finals do GSTL all-kill format it just wouldn't make sense. The teams that get to the semis have proven themselves with one format and one format only.

Also the issues about smurfing raised are valid. If the prizes are significant it would be relatively easy for someone to smurf and go 50/50 with the prize.

[dippa]

Originally Posted by TargA

and for the people using me as an example.. if people in melbourne cant beat me they will have no chance at all of qualifying for korea.. same goes for the national event.

that's irrelevant. if you can't represent australia at the final event, you shouldn't be allowed to knock out people who can. skill doesn't come into it and the same logic should apply to say, glade or tgun, playing in the norwegian qualifier.

[Eddie]

Melbourne event in 2 weeks!

Still not much information?