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**nirvAnA** · Sat, 28th-Mar-2015, 2:21 AM

Yes I've been away for awhile. But now I'm back! At least on the forums. So what has changed over the last 2 years? Do share with me!

Some of my observations:

People
maynarde/glade are now pro-casters?
80% of the top foreign players have quit
where is dox, does he still play/admin
flash still isn't bonjwa flash
jaedong still isn't bonjwa jaedong
huk is still playing and won some sea tournament
thanks for making the site so beautiful paperclip
thanks for making the site so alive eddie
love the new staff and their articles! i don't know who all of you are but you know who you are and i thank you for that
is there any more drama
does deth still hate me
what are pig and dot doing
where is yoonyj
wow i saw del on the forums

Game
the game doesn't look like it has evolved much
parting still does the same builds. over the last 2 years what the hell
when swarm hosts come up parting dies 100% of the time
pvp is still retarded rock paper scissors
where do all the sea players play
the sc2 audience seems to get smaller and smaller

prize pools so tiny compared to moba games
is hearthstone more popular than sc2? if it is i'm going to be very sad.

damn the whole thing about advertising and sponsors has become a lot clearer to me now after working with advertisers over the last 2 years. there's basically too little return to sponsors for their investment and that's cause of the small player base. so any sponsorship is just charity most of the time.

I'll like to sponsor a tournament in LOTV open to just SEA players! would love to see some familiar faces return for it

SLCN.NXZ · Sat, 28th-Mar-2015, 6:00 AM

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Originally Posted by nirvAnA

Yes I've been away for awhile. But now I'm back! At least on the forums. So what has changed over the last 2 years? Do share with me!

Some of my observations:

People
maynarde/glade are now pro-casters?
80% of the top foreign players have quit
where is dox, does he still play/admin
flash still isn't bonjwa flash
jaedong still isn't bonjwa jaedong
huk is still playing and won some sea tournament
thanks for making the site so beautiful paperclip
thanks for making the site so alive eddie
love the new staff and their articles! i don't know who all of you are but you know who you are and i thank you for that
is there any more drama
does deth still hate me
what are pig and dot doing
where is yoonyj
wow i saw del on the forums

Game
the game doesn't look like it has evolved much
parting still does the same builds. over the last 2 years what the hell
when swarm hosts come up parting dies 100% of the time
pvp is still retarded rock paper scissors
where do all the sea players play
the sc2 audience seems to get smaller and smaller

prize pools so tiny compared to moba games
is hearthstone more popular than sc2? if it is i'm going to be very sad.

damn the whole thing about advertising and sponsors has become a lot clearer to me now after working with advertisers over the last 2 years. there's basically too little return to sponsors for their investment and that's cause of the small player base. so any sponsorship is just charity most of the time.

I'll like to sponsor a tournament in LOTV open to just SEA players! would love to see some familiar faces return for it

Glade now casts proleague and SSL (essentially the OSL replacement) in Korea, he's also casted for dreamhack. Maynarde is the new king of IEM and has recently really exploded as a caster internationally.

The top foreign players have changed but I don't know how many have quit that I can think of. I'd say the turnover has been somewhat reasonable. The amount of people who are "progamers" overall are less but to be honest the amount before was way over saturated.

Dox is kind of around, seems to follow more the cod stuff nowadays with Nv.

Re flash and Jaedong, it seems like the next generation of would be brood war superstars are the ones securing the big wins. However, both of them have looked like the best of their race at various times.

Masters cup is now open to pretty much everyone but EU/KR now so we're likely to see more NA vs SEA competition.

Always more drama.

Pig is in the ro16 of WCS premier league (it is region locked now and SEA gets 2 spots in premier).

Have not seen yyj in a long while.

Game changes in little ways, a lot of 2013 styles are obsolete.

Parting is good at shenanigans.

Sea players are on NA and KR.

**mGGNemesis** · Tue, 31st-Mar-2015, 5:32 PM

hey nirvana! glad to see u back... on the forums at least ^_^

Most SEA players are on NA or KR these days though some still play on SEA to get that

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SLCN.Wally · Tue, 31st-Mar-2015, 5:36 PM

one is in 2013 and the other is 2 years in the future

Swarmstika · Tue, 31st-Mar-2015, 5:45 PM

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when swarm hosts come up parting dies 100% of the time

There was one game where PartinG made a Swarm host user look like a fish in a barrel, and PartinG had a flamethrower

eCKoa`ProzeR · Tue, 31st-Mar-2015, 6:02 PM

PH scene other than me and Enderr dieded already. Other pro/good pinoy players already retired / changed game...
The FB group seems to be alive, but then again, the players aren't that good (most are like plat and below, very little diamonds)

Good to see almighty nirvana again!

NvJazBas · Tue, 31st-Mar-2015, 6:02 PM

I miss a lot of people that I met through SCII. Great memories.. hope everyone is doing well in their lives and hopefully I get to meet them again!

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**x5_dot** · Mon, 6th-Apr-2015, 1:27 PM

Nirvana, I have a question for you:

Why are you back? I thought you're too busy making money to spend precious time on gaming?

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**x5.Crescendo** · Mon, 6th-Apr-2015, 1:31 PM

The principal difference right now is Legacy of the Void

**cure** · Wed, 8th-Apr-2015, 1:52 AM

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Nirvana, I have a question for you:

Why are you back? I thought you're too busy making money to spend precious time on gaming?

Money to be made in LOTV :P

**Baldie** · Sun, 12th-Apr-2015, 7:51 PM

Hi Nirvana!

Hope you are well

**Maynarde** · Mon, 13th-Apr-2015, 2:13 PM

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the sc2 audience seems to get smaller and smaller

Fortunately this isn't true, a slow and healthy growth in viewers in korean and international tournament viewership even before #signsofthebeta etc

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prize pools so tiny compared to moba games

Yeah they're more popular and have been for like 4 years, doesn't mean SC2 doesn't have a place with 100s of thousands of fans and millions of dollars of prize money each year

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is hearthstone more popular than sc2? if it is i'm going to be very sad.

I think it gets a lot of viewers because kripparian gets like 30k viewers no matter what he streams, the tournaments don't have much viewers though, no more than SC2.

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is there any more drama

Yeah but it's silly

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does deth still hate me

No

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maynarde/glade are now pro-casters?

Yeah it's weird, didn't see it happening