[TCPLemminks]

So i've noticed in a lot of the pvp's that i've played on ladder, no one seems to be going 4 gate anymore (this is at plat level btw).

I mean i once stole someone's gas to force the 4gate, and he just expanded (which was clever and i really should have won that match T_T)

so are most protoss in SEA just not 4 gating anymore? And everyone is now going 1 base colo?

Quick Comments

ToRSpartaz:

Yeah im noticed quite a few collosi wars going on...

[EveJeonSa]

Haha im afraid many still go for the 4 gate in PvP. Probably not the guys you met though!

[nirvAnA]

hmm nearly all my pvp matches are 4 gates, and im really hoping this changes with the new patch, pvp has been the worse matchup to play since beta

[TCPLemminks]

really?
Cause i remember recently i had a fair amount of non 4gate pvps in a row...perhaps i'm just lucky i guess

gotta thank the 4gate for getting me to gold though, got to plat through 3gate expo

[ROOT`iaguz]

Probably because people at your level either suck balls at video games and don't know about 4gate (entirely possible) or just that you've hit a hot streak of people who just got fed up with 4 gate and want to try something different.

Impossible to say, but as a Terran player I do welcome any nerf to warpgates!

[cure]

Mmmm, i hope they really do find a decent fix for PvP, although nerfing warpgates and buffing zealot buildtime would just screw up the other matchups.

[tin]

i dont 4 gate in pvp 2 gates seem to work fine for me

[Kringe]

Id have to say 4 gate is still around but if ur defending 3 gate works fine with also a tech like blink or immortals so it os around but maybe a change might come

[SiZeMaTTeRs]

Most of my PvP matches, i always try my best to go with a defensive 4 gate build, or perhaps get a quick robo out and build a couple of Immortals to defend the rush.

[FvRsolis]

I'm a fan of defensive 4gating moreso than a 4gate all in (or even a Korean 4gate). Personally, I prefer to use the 4 gate against a high econ zerg build (like Spanishiwa's build). But as a whole I still 4gate just not aggressively anymore.

[ToRSpartaz]

I still think that they cant nerf the 4gate, I stand by that idea it would be impossible making the majority of the match ups imba. I mean you can quite simply defend against a 4gate, its quite simple it isnt an OP build at all. Its just quite effective is used correctly....

[Starcraftmazter]

Originally Posted by Lemminks

So i've noticed in a lot of the pvp's that i've played on ladder, no one seems to be going 4 gate anymore (this is at plat level btw).

Do not worry, Blizzard already has a patch in the works to fix this.

[cure]

Originally Posted by Starcraftmazter

Do not worry, Blizzard already has a patch in the works to fix this.

Hahahahaa ! Where did you find this !

[BordZ]

its just ptr remember though, changes may occur before next real patch

^^ If i had to guess I would say it was the april fools joke patch notes

[toasti0]

with the extra 40 secs it takes to make the wargate research you could always put down a 5th gate? 5 gates the new 4gate baby.

[cruxis]

It's not about the amount of gates you put down, but the amount of gates your income can support. 5 gates is even more all in then 4 gates.

[TCPLemminks]

According to Day[j], one can only support a 4 gate for 1:30 in game minutes...
The proposed patch probably means you can get out 1-3 extra units before the warp gates are done, since you'll mayeb have time to get a unit out of your 3 gateways that should be done before warpgate finishes.
However i think that if they do add the reduced build time for training, you could probably have an extra cycle or two worth of units out before the 4 gate is ready. Not 100% sure on my maths though. So 4 gate may still exist, just with more units on either side