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Unread Tue, 9th-Apr-2013, 2:11 PM BnetId: OSLord.122  Race: Clan: OS  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 106 # 1
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[ITHelp] Ddos

I'm sure some of you are aware of the the recent ddos attacks happening to streamers. Most recently the case being with Stephano's opponents being ddosed causing them to disconnect and frustrating Stephano.

I've also seen plenty of teams and players here on sc2sea who have their Skype posted. Why is that an issue? Skype is the best way to resolve an ip address and ddos you.

If you don't know what ddos is, its computers flooding your internet cache with large random packets of data. The baseline is that you'll disconnect for 1-2 mins due to your internet not being able to handle the large amount of data incoming.

That will then bring me to this article. Destiny (pro sc2 and LoL player) has shared a very detailed insight on what ddos attacks are and most importantly how to prevent it.

ddos wont concern you unless someone actually wants to ddos you. Or you meet a person who ddoses people for money. How do they do it? Simple, they keep ddosing you every day and every hour for 1-2 mins and then they contact you saying that if you want to fix it, just pay them a lump sum of money. Usually anywhere from 500-1000 dollars. Best part is, there's no guarantee they'll stop.

This relates heavily to prominent streamers here on sc2sea. It is paramount that your Skype name cannot be found on the internet if you don't want to get ddossed. My advise is for you people to not post your skype name on any website. Especially here on sc2sea. Keep your Skype name as secret as your address, only people you trust and know should have it.

I myself have informed my team to take the necessary precautions.

On a side note. You don't have to fool proof yourself from ddos unless you know you are at high risk of it or you are getting ddossed. It is a pretty straightforward way to protect yourself (check the link) but it is quite a hassle to setup and like I said, do it only if you are at risk (prominent streamers take note) or you are getting ddossed.

Cheers.

P.S Some of you here are extremely IT savvy so if i made any particular errors regarding the information posted above, feel free to correct me. This is just a heads to you all that I think its important to be secure on the internet. Thanks.

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Unread Tue, 9th-Apr-2013, 3:08 PM BnetId: [fray]FLuX.195  Race: Clan: mGG  Location: Dunedin, New Zealand  Total Posts Made: 860 # 2
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Best part is, you have your skype connected to your sc2sea account. Geegee
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Unread Tue, 9th-Apr-2013, 3:37 PM BnetId: OSLord.122  Race: Clan: OS  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 106 # 3
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Best part is, you have your skype connected to your sc2sea account. Geegee
That too. Thanks. Didn't notice that.
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Unread Tue, 9th-Apr-2013, 3:39 PM BnetId: pXtRoy.225  Race: Clan: pX  Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 631 # 4
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Lol made me giggle.
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Unread Tue, 9th-Apr-2013, 4:58 PM BnetId: Qwerty.832  Race: Clan: OS  Location: Esperance  Total Posts Made: 119 # 5
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Stops Skype process, Unplugs internet modem for 5 mins.

DDoS ended.

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Unread Tue, 9th-Apr-2013, 5:11 PM BnetId: OSLord.122  Race: Clan: OS  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 106 # 6
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Stops Skype process, Unplugs internet modem for 5 mins.

DDoS ended.
Im not sure if you want to pull out your internet modem in the middle of a sc2 game

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if it was unplayable sure would, aha
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Unread Tue, 9th-Apr-2013, 5:00 PM BnetId: CleighMoores.373  Race: Location: Melbourne  Total Posts Made: 108 # 7
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Ahhhh thanks, that spree from the other night was seriously annoying. Will definitely be more careful about this in the future, thanks for the tips man.
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Maybe possible to route your skype through a proxy so that way only your skype will die to DDoS?
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Unread Tue, 9th-Apr-2013, 5:18 PM BnetId: OSLord.122  Race: Clan: OS  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 106 # 9
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Maybe possible to route your skype through a proxy so that way only your skype will die to DDoS?
That is what the article i posted from destiny does. But not just skype gets ddosed, its generally preventing all ddos by having a sort of wall and a failsafe if you do get ddosed.
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This guide HERE goes into a lot more detail on how to prevent a DDoS from happening and what to do if it happens to you.

I also recommend a read of 3-part guide to being secure and safe online, written by a couple of the bro's over at KBMOD.

Part 1 - Browser Add-ons
Part 2 - Software
Part 3 - Habits

If you have any questions about any of this, let me know.
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Unread Wed, 10th-Apr-2013, 10:45 PM BnetId: YourFather  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 117 # 11
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sorry a little side topic but i kept reading ddos as dodos.

Anyway thanks for the info!
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Unread Thu, 18th-Apr-2013, 4:37 PM BnetId: OSLord.122  Race: Clan: OS  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 106 # 12
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This guide HERE goes into a lot more detail on how to prevent a DDoS from happening and what to do if it happens to you.

I also recommend a read of 3-part guide to being secure and safe online, written by a couple of the bro's over at KBMOD.

Part 1 - Browser Add-ons
Part 2 - Software
Part 3 - Habits

If you have any questions about any of this, let me know.
Thanks for the help also. I have run through and implemented some of the solutions posted as stated in the above quote. I have spent some time running through all the provided information and would like to say a few things.

For the three part guide i suggest using what you only need to secure yourself. That level of security provided in the 3 part guide is borderline paranoid already.

The leaguepeida post on ddos is great as it does give 2 aspects of solutions (1 being short term and the other being long term). It also does give a clearer picture on seeing whether you are indeed being ddosed or not.

However the difference between Destiny's guide and the leaguepedia guide is that while the leaguepedia guide recommends a VPN in which you have to pay for it, Destiny states a good point in which you want to make your connection secure like a VPN without routing all your connections through that VPN as it may or may not affect your connection and you may need to pay (in which this case you do if you follow the leaguepedia guide) or have a whole host of programs that are messy and again may screw your connection to game severs and what not.

What the leaguepedia guide does on the VPN is that to mask all your connections. That will ensure 100% that your connection is routing through the VPN whenever you are connected to the internet so you will be safe against ddos as it is the VPN who takes the ddos attack and not you.

What Destiny does is sort of the same but it only masks what you want to mask. Namely Skype and your browser, leaving your game sever connections untouched. The question will surely arise, can't they take your ip from the game? No, unless they can hack INTO the game sever itself (which is by no means possible for a small time 1337 hax0r 16 year old kid to do ) and steal your ip from there which is by far impractical.

The leaguepedia guide does provide a simpler and more straightforward way to just mask your Skype behind a proxy via a different ip. Destiny's guide is way more complex involving tunneling your connections and using amazon's severs to mask your ip and what not. But once you done it you can choose what type of connections you want to mask. Destiny's way is not creating a VPN but setting part of your network up with a VPS (virtual private server, the sever being amazon's). Like I mentioned, complex to setup but gives your the flexibility to choose what you want to route through the VPS. For my case its good since i want to route most of my voice chat related software such as teamspeak and razer's new voice software or even raidcall (plus Skype and my browser software of course).

So to sum it all up.

Leaguepedia guide:
Fast temporary solutions
Clearer way to detect ddos
Simple set up of VPNs [not free] (which cover all your connections) and Skype proxies

Destiny guide:
Somewhat clear definition of what ddos is
More complex setting of flexible tunnel connections using a VPS, allows for individual software to be routed through the VPS rather than your entire network for free.

Hope this clears up the issues for some people. Again, if anyone who is more IT savvy than me and knows I've made a few mistakes concerning what i typed here describing the IT terms and what not, please feel free to correct me.

Cheers.
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