[ComCoddyL]

So I'm a random player, frequently gets into a ZvT matchup. I'm not really good with rushes, early game play and usually go into mid-late game. All the terrans I face use the marine/tank/medivac strategy and most of the time steamroll my army which is consistent of ling/roach/infestor. I've read the sc2 forums and got the idea of blings to the mix might help. I want to know your guys opinion on this, should I add bling to my army comp or should I just aim to finish the game early before the enemy reaches cap supply?

[ROOT`iaguz]

Ling bane muta, ling bane infestor or pure ling infestor into really fast 2/2 upgrades and hive. Pick one and play it.

Make sure your injects and creep spread are constant, lots of overlords spread for drops and flanks/spreads for engagements.

Roaches are shit midgame vs terran they get mashed by tanks and everything. If they go mech then roaches are great because they get mashed the least out of all of your units but not against Marine tank.

[Temujai]

hey mate

the most important thing in the ZvT matchup for me is a macro hatch. if you can get 35-40 drones before gas on 2 base with double queen and hit every inject you'll be able to have a good econ to get a macro hatch, 3rd and gas while at the same time having enough larvae to get lings if you have to. one important thing is to get the xelnaga towers to know if your safe to make a wave of drones or if youll need lings etc.

roaches arent the best thing vses a terran going for a marine tank build for a few reasons, slow attack rate and when the tank count gets high enough your roaches just get wrecked. instead of using gas on roaches, try and go for an earlier +1 melee and armour for your lings and earlier lair tech for infestors. around 8 or so mins youll be able to have your 3 bases running, and have the potential for a good army size. lings can deal with marine tank without roach back up if theres a few infestors, you just have to micro them well and fungal all the marines while constantly hitting injects and creating more lings.

you have to take a 4th when you feel comfortable to do so and then instead of trying to finish him off with ling infestor, focus on containing him as well as teching (getting 2/2, hive tech, etc)

sorry for the essay, hope this helped a little bit and hope i didnt ramble on about irrelevent stuff.

[ComCoddyL]

I'm disappointed I've been going roaches all the time.
Thanks for the quick replies, got a lot of practicing ahead of me.

[Temujai]

if you ever need a hand, you could find a terran buddy and set up a custom and get him to go marine tank and i could help you with timings etc, offers there, im getting pretty bored lately!

[ComCoddyL]

I probably won't have enough time for a couple of weeks as school starts back up on Monday. But thanks for the offer.

[Temujai]

no worries man, gl hf aye

[ShrOOmy]

Great tips guys! Will be now trying less roaches in my ZvT builds. I love banelings on strategic maps with alot of the trees your enemy cant see being. Give them their own macro and hold them in ambush spots for great fear factor.

[Stoosh]

As a gold level Terran (take with a grain of salt) when I see roaches in early-mid game, I just get a big smile. Just means lair tech units are delayed because of the early gas put into the roaches, plus generally the Terran will still have at least 1 barracks with a tech lab so they can just mix in a few marauders also.

Ling(/bling)/Infestor seems a much stronger composition to play against

[RVLiveR]

It depends on what you want to do. If you want to play a generally safer, (if anybody makes a mistake it's not as game changing) then go muta/ling/bling, constantly harass, and look for when he's unsieged to a-click. Select all your banelings, if the siege tanks are together it's not that bad to just run the blings into the tanks and remax on lings, morph some lings to blings, and use muta for defense, if they're not and they're leapfrogging slowly use your mutas to pick off 1 siege tank at a time, or a couple marines. If you want to play a more game changing style, play ling/infestor. Catch him unsieged with 3 fungals, gg. Engage in a bad position and lose all but 4 of your infestors, gg. Again, look for unsieged stuff.

No roaches in ZvT unless he goes mech. Never ever ever. Even if he makes 6-8 hellions, use queens instead of roaches.

In all matchups, T always gets bombarded by splash (storm, colo, archon, siege tank, baneling, fungal, etc.) so use those to your advantage.

[syfSoundwave]

Originally Posted by AetH

No roaches in ZvT unless he goes mech. Never ever ever. Even if he makes 6-8 hellions, use queens instead of roaches.

Roaches are actually amazing vs hellion/marine/marauder all-in and vs early bio pushes.

[SLCN.Kez]

Roaches have their place in the matchup despite what peolpe think, they are just extremely hard to use. What league are you in? chances are the problem isnt the composition but just how good you are at macro/multi tasking in general. Ling infestor CAN be more multi tasking oriented as you need to be more cautious of drops, creep spread etc. When you take your 3rd is also extremely important, these days if you open gasless with a bunch of queens u can usually take it pretty early. not really much else to help you with, marine tank is pretty figured out if youre going ling infestor, just make sure u kill their medivacs!

[ToRRedemption]

Roach bane early game is actually quite good, if you use that properly and do proper teching and expanding it is the hardest thing to face.

[iM MaFia]

You play zvt wrong if ur thinking too much. Make da 6 queen and like uhh 80 drone maybe 5 hatch and you get many many ling long some bling if you liiiike

[Aeternitas]

Mix in banelings and for gods sake make sure to flank. Spreading out units before attacking is immensely important versus tanks. Imagine if 7 tankshells hit single zerglings. That's 7 shells basically for nothing. I am not saying you should spread every ling out, but the front helps very much.